[Denver]

People can change and shouldn't always be judged on the past he had his demons and he was battling them and he was becoming a better person because of that

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Adam.

People can change and shouldn't always be judged on the past he had his demons and he was battling them and he was becoming a better person because of that

If it's true that he raped and beat his g/f then yeah he should be judged on his past tbf.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If it's true that he raped and beat his g/f then yeah he should be judged on his past tbf.

I don't see anyone hating the likes of R Kelly and Chris Brown they are still universally loved and they are much older

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I don't see anyone hating the likes of R Kelly and Chris Brown they are still universally loved and they are much older

I don't know If I agree with that statement but regardless it doesn't change my opinion that a violent rapist should absolutely be judged on their past, 100%. I also judge R Kelly and Chris Brown if that makes you feel better?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I don't see anyone hating the likes of R Kelly and Chris Brown

Really? Anyone?

Where are you looking? The attic?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Really? Anyone?

Where are you looking? The attic?

You could arguably say Chris Brown has been more popular the last year or 2 then he ever has been

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You could arguably say Chris Brown has been more popular the last year or 2 then he ever has been

And this guy we're discussing now had his own success and popularity.

Which just shows how sh*tty the world is.

Especially when fans of people like this make up lies about the victims to blame them for what happened to them.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And this guy we're discussing now had his own success and popularity.

Which just shows how sh*tty the world is.

Especially when fans of people like this make up lies about the victims to blame them for what happened to them.

Worst thing is all the controversy with this guy started before the start of his career so people knowingly elevated a piece of **** like him into the lime light

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You could arguably say Chris Brown has been more popular the last year or 2 then he ever has been

he's been releasing flop album after flop album people really aren't here for him he just has a knack for always being in the media

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I don't see anyone hating the likes of R Kelly and Chris Brown they are still universally loved and they are much older

You're joking right?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If it's true that he raped and beat his g/f then yeah he should be judged on his past tbf.

Exactly, how can anyone defend his actions

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

People can change and shouldn't always be judged on the past he had his demons and he was battling them and he was becoming a better person because of that

What's this change based on?

Excusing someone's actions doesn't change those actions. The fact you need to rip apart his victims to try and make him look better says it all.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What's this change based on?

Excusing someone's actions doesn't change those actions. The fact you need to rip apart his victims to try and make him look better says it all.

Do you not care for the 100s of kids with nothing that he went out of his way for to give expensive gifts from his own pocket?

I'm not saying he was a saint and I've never said that but he is not an evil person he did have a heart

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Do you not care for the 100s of kids with nothing that he went out of his way for to give expensive gifts from his own pocket?

Omg, he gave away expensive gifts?

That makes his murdering, abusive, raping, homophobia all ****ing alright then doesn't it.

Would you like to blame his victims for what he did to them again?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Omg, he gave away expensive gifts?

That makes his murdering, abusive, raping, homophobia all ****ing alright then doesn't it.

Would you like to blame his victims for what he did to them again?

Imagine telling his ex g/f that him raping her doesn't matter anymore cos he gave some kids presents

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Imagine telling his ex g/f that him raping her doesn't matter anymore cos he gave some kids presents

It's honestly so pathetic and juvenile.

It's like calling for Jon Venables to be forgiven because he helped an old lady cross the road once so "he has a heart".

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Omg, he gave away expensive gifts?

That makes his murdering, abusive, raping, homophobia all ****ing alright then doesn't it.

Would you like to blame his victims for what he did to them again?

How have I blamed his victims

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

How have I blamed his victims

Read your own posts.

You're accusing the man he beat half to death of being a rapist. You blamed his girlfriend for what he did to her before all of the pages were deleted the other night.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Read your own posts.

You're accusing the man he beat half to death of being a rapist. You blamed his girlfriend for what he did to her before all of the pages were deleted the other night.

I said his gf lied about being pregnant not that she lied about him beating her up

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Do you not care for the 100s of kids with nothing that he went out of his way for to give expensive gifts from his own pocket?

I'm not saying he was a saint and I've never said that but he is not an evil person he did have a heart

Doing a bit of charity for good press does not override heinous acts he committed in private. It's easy to be kind when a camera is on you and when it benefits you to do so but a person's private actions will always reveal the truth behind the facade.