[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Up to episode 8 now

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I'm hoping Mrs. Waterford is finally going to turn good and help June although everytime I think that she turns into an asshole again. Emily and Janine being back

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The thing is, she isn't so much a "good" character as just a very selfish one. I think there are indications that she's going to flip sides, but mainly because she's realising that her life as "The Commander's Wife" isn't really great and she's actually just as much a slave to it as the Handmaids or the cook. They kind of showed that in that episode. Yes, the handmaids etc. have been brutalised and the wives aren't... but, that's only if they don't step out of line. If they do, they'll be beaten and abused like anyone else. They also showed that wives can be sent to the colonies as well in a previous episode. But yeah... basically, she used to "be someone" and she wants that back, and that's why she'll end up turning on the Commander. She also doesn't LIKE mistreating people, but will turn nasty in a second if something gets in the way of her own best interests. TBH she's one of the more interesting characters in the show because of the nuance (along with Aunt Lydia who I mentioned before)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

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The thing is, she isn't so much a "good" character as just a very selfish one. I think there are indications that she's going to flip sides, but mainly because she's realising that her life as "The Commander's Wife" isn't really great and she's actually just as much a slave to it as the Handmaids or the cook. They kind of showed that in that episode. Yes, the handmaids etc. have been brutalised and the wives aren't... but, that's only if they don't step out of line. If they do, they'll be beaten and abused like anyone else. They also showed that wives can be sent to the colonies as well in a previous episode. But yeah... basically, she used to "be someone" and she wants that back, and that's why she'll end up turning on the Commander. She also doesn't LIKE mistreating people, but will turn nasty in a second if something gets in the way of her own best interests. TBH she's one of the more interesting characters in the show because of the nuance (along with Aunt Lydia who I mentioned before)

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Yeah great analysis actually, spot on. She seems to be realising that she helped create this world that she's now a prisoner in. She is a really interesting character and I would love to see her and June properly team up

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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Yeah great analysis actually, spot on. She seems to be realising that she helped create this world that she's now a prisoner in. She is a really interesting character and I would love to see her and June properly team up

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I have a suspicion that when the baby is born, Serena will struggle to bond with it as well as she thought she would and she'll realise that it's not "really her baby", and is June's. They've done a fair bit of foreshadowing of that (e.g. her relationship with her greenhouse saplings which she does see as "hers", and the situation with Janine's ill baby getting better with contact from her real mother). They're also strongly hinting that Serena could actually have children, as we know pretty much for a fact that the Commander is infertile... although, I was wondering if maybe she genuinely can't because of when she was shot?

But yes anyway, I think she pushes through the parts of it that she hates because she really believes that she'll be happy with a child... and it'll all fall apart when she realises that she's still miserable and all of the rest of it is for nothing as she's had to give up all of the other ways that she found fulfilment in life.

However... I do still think any alliance would only last for as long as it benefits her personally. She's not selfless enough to have an element of self-sacrifice.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

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I have a suspicion that when the baby is born, Serena will struggle to bond with it as well as she thought she would and she'll realise that it's not "really her baby", and is June's. They've done a fair bit of foreshadowing of that (e.g. her relationship with her greenhouse saplings which she does see as "hers", and the situation with Janine's ill baby getting better with contact from her real mother). They're also strongly hinting that Serena could actually have children, as we know pretty much for a fact that the Commander is infertile... although, I was wondering if maybe she genuinely can't because of when she was shot?

But yes anyway, I think she pushes through the parts of it that she hates because she really believes that she'll be happy with a child... and it'll all fall apart when she realises that she's still miserable and all of the rest of it is for nothing as she's had to give up all of the other ways that she found fulfilment in life.

However... I do still think any alliance would only last for as long as it benefits her personally. She's not selfless enough to have an element of self-sacrifice.

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Oh I just automatically assumed that the purpose of showing her being shot in the stomach was to tell us this is why she can't have children but equally it could be a red herring

I was wondering aswell if June and Nick escaped to Canada what would she do about Luke or who would she choose