[Alf]

Originally Posted by michael21

Everton a you poor man

You're a Spurs fan, so you have no credit over me.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Alf

A strategic withdrawal from Southgate, just like Churchill at Dunkirk.

Thatcher wouldn't have backed down! Shows how men are weak. Get a female manager!

[rusticgal]

I don't think England went out with the mentality to lose..they just were not good enough.
They now have a better run in...but then who ever knows with England..this World Cup has thrown up some very unexpected results..lets just hope they beat Columbia..it's no done and dusted deal.

[Calderyon]

Has England ever beat a South American team in the World Cup?

[reece(:]

Was watching through my phone, glad I wasn't as into this game as before because it was rather disappointing

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Has England ever beat a South American team in the World Cup?

They have beaten Colombia

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

As an Evertonian, I'd like to say I'm confident in Pickford, but I'm not. I'd seriously be more confident if Joe Hart was there. That could be our weak link.

It's best that we try and support the players I think as with people like Pickford it is his first World Cup so nerves are bound to show, as long as he gets better at the knockouts then I'll forgive the early teething problems.

And tbh our goalkeeper situation is a massive problem no matter who we pick, at least Pickford has not been a disaster yet.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Thatcher wouldn't have backed down! Shows how men are weak. Get a female manager!

Nah she'd have starved the northerners of the team so only the Southerners could play.

[Crimson Dynamo]

shocking game and apart from confirming that his best team isnt that one not sure if this was a good idea?

[Nicky91]

great result for england, now in the weaker bottom half

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Thatcher wouldn't have backed down! Shows how men are weak. Get a female manager!

yeah but then england would've faced all the strongest teams, now Belgium has no chance at all to make the final

[chuff me dizzy]

Why oh why give Vardy a shirt? Ive never once seen him play even half decent for England, I was shocked and baffled he even got a seat on the plane

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah but then england would've faced all the strongest teams, now Belgium has no chance at all to make the final

They have all the chance in the world. And do you really count Japan as a strong team?

[AnnieK]

If all of the Belgium team are fit, I think they could win it. I fear we were lulled in a false sense of brilliance in the first 2 games and now we are going to be shown up.....Columbia will still be a tough game.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

They have all the chance in the world. And do you really count Japan as a strong team?

not Japan, red devils can easily win that one, but after that they have only tough opponents, so they need to play at 100% every match in a row then

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

not Japan, red devils can easily win that one, but after that they have only tough opponents, so they need to play at 100% every match in a row then

At knockouts everyone needs to play at 100% or they are going home, don't you agree?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

At knockouts everyone needs to play at 100% or they are going home, don't you agree?

i agree, but i would rather play in the lesser of the 2 halfs


because after Japan, Belgium can face Brazil/Mexico, and then France/Argentina, and there's also Uruguay/Portugal


so Belgium needs to stay focused every match, no slip ups which can happen cause of the nerves playing against such tough opponents



England well they have Colombia as a threat, and then my guess would be Switzerland cause i find the Swiss a bit better than sweden, ranking wise as well, and Spain/Russia, Croatia/Denmark


so a slight bit better half for england to be in, i hope they can bring their best level now, with the best players in the starting 11 now



QF should be possible for england at least, i believe in them

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i agree, but i would rather play in the lesser of the 2 halfs


because after Japan, Belgium can face Brazil/Mexico, and then France/Argentina, and there's also Uruguay/Portugal


so Belgium needs to stay focused every match, no slip ups which can happen cause of the nerves playing against such tough opponents



England well they have Colombia as a threat, and then my guess would be Switzerland cause i find the Swiss a bit better than sweden, ranking wise as well, and Spain/Russia, Croatia/Denmark

so a slight bit better half for england to be in, i hope they can bring their best level now, with the best players in the starting 11 now



QF should be possible for england at least, i believe in them

The other side is a little easier, but only a little. Colombia is a good team and I think England has always had trouble with South American style of play. Sweden blanked both Korea and Mexico, who both blanked Germany so they cannot be taken lightly. Nor is Switzerland, who was great getting a tie against the tournament favorites Brazil and overall played a solid group stage to advance.

Spain and Croatia of course now both have teams potentially of going all the way.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

The other side is a little easier, but only a little. Colombia is a good team and I think England has always had trouble with South American style of play. Sweden blanked both Korea and Mexico, who both blanked Germany so they cannot be taken lightly. Nor is Switzerland, who was great getting a tie against the tournament favorites Brazil and overall played a solid group stage to advance.

Spain and Croatia of course now both have teams potentially of going all the way.

the Swiss are #6 of the world so i had expected them to get this far


Cald, i get what you are trying to say, don't be overconfident, don't cheer too soon

and i do not really care about who wins this world cup, whoever wins it is deserved, they all got this far now

[Crimson Dynamo]

i think England have blown their momentum with that dreadful performance last night and this could cost them

[Calderyon]

No worries.

I have to say this World Cup feels somewhat odd without Netherlands, USA and Italy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

No worries.

I have to say this World Cup feels somewhat odd without Netherlands, USA and Italy.

its great without terrible negative Italy and also without the surly dutch having internal arguments all the time

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its great without terrible negative Italy and also without the surly dutch having internal arguments all the time

Netherlands '98 was an incredible team. Kluivert, Bergkamp, Davids, Overmars etc.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i think England have blown their momentum with that dreadful performance last night and this could cost them

keep thinking positive LT


so what this is just one dreadful performance who cares this match wasn't important anyway

[Cherie]

It was a borefest but I think on balance Southgate did the right thing, everyone is fit, he rested his best players, can’t see how sitting on the bench for one game that they could afford to lose would make them lose focus they have less travelling to do and will be playing in cooler condtions so they have a chance at least