[Twosugars]

I said I wasn't going to post here and I bloody couldn't help myself
this time that's it, I'm off

looking forward to the balloon! less than a week to go

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I said I wasn't going to post here and I bloody couldn't help myself
this time that's it, I'm off

looking forward to the balloon! less than a week to go

yes Both balloons

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I said I wasn't going to post here and I bloody couldn't help myself
this time that's it, I'm off

looking forward to the balloon! less than a week to go

You are getting excited by a balloon ? you need to get out more love

[Tom4784]

If there's no health and safety concerns then I see no issue with either balloon. Whether or not it's childish doesn't matter one bit, it's their right to protest how they see fit as long as no one gets hurt.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If there's no health and safety concerns then I see no issue with either balloon. Whether or not it's childish doesn't matter one bit, it's their right to protest how they see fit as long as no one gets hurt.

Yep - it’s their right to makes arses of themselves. They must be used to it by now!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If there's no health and safety concerns then I see no issue with either balloon. Whether or not it's childish doesn't matter one bit, it's their right to protest how they see fit as long as no one gets hurt.

Its not a protest, its trolling by kids?

[Vicky.]

Wouldn't be opposed to a whole nursery full of random baby politicians tbh. Childish, yes of course. As is the American Idiot thing. But..its peaceful.

What I really have found very interesting about this whole thing is the reaction of a few people who are usually all super 'freedom of speech!' and such. All of a sudden, freedom of speech/expression is NOT whats wanted, what is being called for are bans on songs being sold/streamed, bans on ideas such as this (did I mention childish?! ) baloon...apparently marching is pointless as it changes nothing..when only weeks back there were calls for protest marches because someone who had broken the law got locked up...and so on.

Yesterday it was only one guy I saw kicking off badly about this. Now there are a few of them, they are getting very irrate at the sheer gall of anyone to disagree with them, oddly enough. I do tend to find its usually left wing people wanting to control how others speak/think, but because Trump is involved..suddenly banning stuff is the best plan of action from those who are usually opposed to the nanny state stuff.

All very odd.

None of the above is about people on here, though a similar reaction seems to be going on here too I guess.

[Kazanne]

Peaceful protests are fine,I just find the balloon thing quite embarrassing for the country,and what it conveys to other countries about us,plus at the end of the day will it change anything ? it certainly wont change Trump he will probably just have more distain for us, so who is it for really ? but it's not the blimp that has annoyed some people ,but the fact the mayor of London has sanctioned it,he is supposed to be a figure worthy of respect isn't he? I am sure he would not have sanctioned one of Mohammed floating about as a fun figure. Some people don't like Trump that is fair enough,but are we going to waste money on loads of these things everytime we don't like someone, and will we be allowed?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Peaceful protests are fine,I just find the balloon thing quite embarrassing for the country,and what it conveys to other countries about us,plus at the end of the day will it change anything ? it certainly wont change Trump he will probably just have more distain for us, so who is it for really ? but it's not the blimp that has annoyed some people ,but the fact the mayor of London has sanctioned it,he is supposed to be a figure worthy of respect isn't he? I am sure he would not have sanctioned one of Mohammed floating about as a fun figure. Some people don't like Trump that is fair enough,but are we going to waste money on loads of these things everytime we don't like someone, and will we be allowed?

I think some people are missing the point entirely as it has nothing to do with free speech and more to do with childish tantrums. Their little protests won’t make one jot of difference to Trrump being President and just shows they havre more in common with him than they would ever care to admit. And yes Khan is more the issue as he is using his position to do the same.

If the childish Ttump is a laughing stock so are his haters who it seems would rather take the puerile position of ‘if you can’t beat em, join em’. Some achiement.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think some people are missing the point entirely as it has nothing to do with free speech and more to do with childish tantrums. Their little protests won’t make one jot of difference to Trrump being President and just shows they havre more in common with him than they would ever care to admit. And yes Khan is more the issue as he is using his position to do the same.

If the childish Ttump is a laughing stock so are his haters who it seems would rather take the puerile position of ‘if you can’t beat em, join em’. Some achiement.

Hi brillo ,yes I agree,it's all very silly and a waste of time and money, give that money to charity.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think some people are missing the point entirely as it has nothing to do with free speech and more to do with childish tantrums. Their little protests won’t make one jot of difference to Trrump being President and just shows they havre more in common with him than they would ever care to admit. And yes Khan is more the issue as he is using his position to do the same.

If the childish Ttump is a laughing stock so are his haters who it seems would rather take the puerile position of ‘if you can’t beat em, join em’. Some achiement.

Wait. What do you mean this balloon wont stop his presidency? That doesnt sound right.

[Gusto Brunt]

Mayor Khan is a big kid himself for allowing this stupid thing to fly above Parliament.

He needs to grow up and stop criticising and sniping at Trump. It's not Trump that's looking bad, it's Khan. He's an embarrassment. No other country in the world would allow this. Not even North Korea.

Khan needs to work on stopping gun crime, the idiot he is. He infuriates me.

I just hope someone in the crowd fires a dart at the ballon and it slowly goes down.

Waste of money. It just goes to show how low these idiots who hate Trump will go. To actually spend £18,000 on that monstrosity. How about giving that money to charity to help the people they say Trump's policies affect, like refugees.

Oh no, they'd rather spend EIGHTEEN GRAND on that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Mayor Khan is a big kid himself for allowing this stupid thing to fly above Parliament.

He needs to grow up and stop criticising and sniping at Trump. It's not Trump that's looking bad, it's Khan. He's an embarrassment. No other country in the world would allow this. Not even North Korea.

Khan needs to work on stopping gun crime, the idiot he is. He infuriates me.

I just hope someone in the crowd fires a dart at the ballon and it slowly goes down.

Waste of money. It just goes to show how low these idiots who hate Trump will go. To actually spend £18,000 on that monstrosity. How about giving that money to charity to help the people they say Trump's policies affect, like refugees.

Oh no, they'd rather spend EIGHTEEN GRAND on that.

18 grand !!! bloody hell that's obscene,Gusto, I am sure the NHS could use that.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

18 grand !!! bloody hell that's obscene,Gusto, I am sure the NHS could use that.

Totally. And what will they do when it's all over, probably bin it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Totally. And what will they do when it's all over, probably bin it.

Attach a fleshlight for an arsehole, giant inflatable trump sex doll.

Just throwing ideas around.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Mayor Khan is a big kid himself for allowing this stupid thing to fly above Parliament.

He needs to grow up and stop criticising and sniping at Trump. It's not Trump that's looking bad, it's Khan. He's an embarrassment. No other country in the world would allow this. Not even North Korea.

Khan needs to work on stopping gun crime, the idiot he is. He infuriates me.

I just hope someone in the crowd fires a dart at the ballon and it slowly goes down.

Waste of money. It just goes to show how low these idiots who hate Trump will go. To actually spend £18,000 on that monstrosity. How about giving that money to charity to help the people they say Trump's policies affect, like refugees.

Oh no, they'd rather spend EIGHTEEN GRAND on that.

The truth Gusto !!

[Brillopad]

Let’s see how ‘peaceful’ it will actually be. The whole thing will give a lot of groups a good excuse to cause mayhem - maybe worse. I know I wom’t Be going anywhere near it.

[Vicky.]

Khan is an elected mayor. He wasn't just handpicked by a random panel or whatever, so I don't get how him being mayor can be positive discrimination? Maybe I am just not understanding it all properly, can you explain it to me brillo please? Might be a bit too early for me yet

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Khan is an elected mayor. He wasn't just handpicked by a random panel or whatever, so I don't get how him being mayor can be positive discrimination? Maybe I am just not understanding it all properly, can you explain it to me brillo please? Might be a bit too early for me yet

Oh come on with all the PC thinking in our society currently it’s not such a leap that the ‘vote’ was engineered/encouraged in certain circles.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh come on with all the PC thinking in our society currently it’s not such a leap that the ‘vote’ was engineered/encouraged in certain circles.

...But you cry foul every time someone says the same thing about Brexit, and decry anyone who doesn't like the Brexit result as being "against democracy!!"

Honestly, you need to pick a stance and stop holding such contradictory opinions. I personally do believe that most "democratic" votes these days are socially engineered and manipulated, so I can even agree that it's possible that Khan is where he is because the right people thought it was the right move. BUT if you believe that, you also have to be open to the idea that the "Leave" Brexit result was ALSO engineered and manipulated by certain interested parties / propaganda, and that "remoaners" have a legitimate complaint about the result. Likewise the US presidential result. That's all I'm saying. By all means criticise democracy, but don't then go into other threads on other topics insisting that it's beyond criticism .

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

...But you cry foul every time someone says the same thing about Brexit, and decry anyone who doesn't like the Brexit result as being "against democracy!!"

Honestly, you need to pick a stance and stop holding such contradictory opinions. I personally do believe that most "democratic" votes these days are socially engineered and manipulated, so I can even agree that it's possible that Khan is where he is because the right people thought it was the right move. BUT if you believe that, you also have to be open to the idea that the "Leave" Brexit result was ALSO engineered and manipulated by certain interested parties / propaganda, and that "remoaners" have a legitimate complaint about the result. Likewise the US presidential result. That's all I'm saying. By all means criticise democracy, but don't then go into other threads on other topics insisting that it's beyond criticism .

Fair point - but the election of the London Major was smaller and less significant than Brexit and I would imagine more manipulateable for a variety of reasons.

In the much less likely scenario that the Brexit vote could have been ‘interferred with’ I would have no feelings for the remainers as I have no doubts, judging by the constant attempts to overturn it, they would have endorsed such actions wholeheartedly if the boot were on the other foot.

However I don’t believe Brexit was engineered - I actually believed it would be the other way round. But I think because people had been pushed too far on certain issues and had had enough - the vote, in part a protest vote, won the day. Still very much a democratic vote!

[Vicky.]

PC thinking? Erm..ok then

Do you have any reason to believe the vote was engineered, and how on earth did 'they' (assuming there is an ominous they...) pull it off?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

PC thinking? Erm..ok then

Do you have any reason to believe the vote was engineered, and how on earth did 'they' (assuming there is an ominous they...) pull it off?

Although I have some understanding of the Why’s Vicky - I have little idea on the How’s - I have no such powers. For those that do I wouldn’t imagine it would be very difficult. But an understanding of one does not preclude you from having an opinion on the other!

[Vicky.]

Hmm I guess not. Just seemed a fairly random accusation. And the PC thinking thing annoyed me, I am probably one of the least politically correct people on here I don't really care if my opinions are seen as 'acceptable' or not. And I seem to annoy SJWs an awful lot too, which says I am certainly not 'PC'

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Hmm I guess not. Just seemed a fairly random accusation. And the PC thinking thing annoyed me, I am probably one of the least politically correct people on here I don't really care if my opinions are seen as 'acceptable' or not. And I seem to annoy SJWs an awful lot too, which says I am certainly not 'PC'

But I was referring to those that either are or ohers that, for political, idealistic or even financial reasons, decided it would be an appropriate choice and were in a position to make it happen.