[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Khan is an elected mayor. He wasn't just handpicked by a random panel or whatever, so I don't get how him being mayor can be positive discrimination? Maybe I am just not understanding it all properly, can you explain it to me brillo please? Might be a bit too early for me yet

Oh come on with all the PC thinking in our society currently it’s not such a leap that the ‘vote’ was engineered/encouraged in certain circles.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh come on with all the PC thinking in our society currently it’s not such a leap that the ‘vote’ was engineered/encouraged in certain circles.

...But you cry foul every time someone says the same thing about Brexit, and decry anyone who doesn't like the Brexit result as being "against democracy!!"

Honestly, you need to pick a stance and stop holding such contradictory opinions. I personally do believe that most "democratic" votes these days are socially engineered and manipulated, so I can even agree that it's possible that Khan is where he is because the right people thought it was the right move. BUT if you believe that, you also have to be open to the idea that the "Leave" Brexit result was ALSO engineered and manipulated by certain interested parties / propaganda, and that "remoaners" have a legitimate complaint about the result. Likewise the US presidential result. That's all I'm saying. By all means criticise democracy, but don't then go into other threads on other topics insisting that it's beyond criticism .

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

...But you cry foul every time someone says the same thing about Brexit, and decry anyone who doesn't like the Brexit result as being "against democracy!!"

Honestly, you need to pick a stance and stop holding such contradictory opinions. I personally do believe that most "democratic" votes these days are socially engineered and manipulated, so I can even agree that it's possible that Khan is where he is because the right people thought it was the right move. BUT if you believe that, you also have to be open to the idea that the "Leave" Brexit result was ALSO engineered and manipulated by certain interested parties / propaganda, and that "remoaners" have a legitimate complaint about the result. Likewise the US presidential result. That's all I'm saying. By all means criticise democracy, but don't then go into other threads on other topics insisting that it's beyond criticism .

Fair point - but the election of the London Major was smaller and less significant than Brexit and I would imagine more manipulateable for a variety of reasons.

In the much less likely scenario that the Brexit vote could have been ‘interferred with’ I would have no feelings for the remainers as I have no doubts, judging by the constant attempts to overturn it, they would have endorsed such actions wholeheartedly if the boot were on the other foot.

However I don’t believe Brexit was engineered - I actually believed it would be the other way round. But I think because people had been pushed too far on certain issues and had had enough - the vote, in part a protest vote, won the day. Still very much a democratic vote!