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Old 16-07-2018, 06:58 PM #1
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Not sure anyone could begrudge a homeless person sleeping on a bench at a time they're curled up in their own bed in a warm house.
but its not that is it

its drunks and druggies

dont peddle the innocent homeless myth

there are charities and council help for genuine homeless but there are those who shun that

i want to protect those who use parks for children and old people

i hope you do too
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but its not that is it

its drunks and druggies

dont peddle the innocent homeless myth

there are charities and council help for genuine homeless but there are those who shun that

i want to protect those who use parks for children and old people

i hope you do too
Homelessness leading to addiction or addiction leading to homelessness isn't genuine?

Don't peddle that sh*t!
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Homelessness leading to addiction or addiction leading to homelessness isn't genuine?

Don't peddle that sh*t!
you can only help those who want to help themselves

its not big brother

unless you want to take people against their will?
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unless you want to take people against their will?
I haven't suggested you go and force counselling on a random drug addict LT.

Trying to take every last little right away from people who already have nothing is unnecessarily vindictive.

And for what? So Beatrice can take the twins to the park without the real world and its problems spoiling the terribly chipper and perfectly middle class view she's inflicting upon them that doesn't and will never exist?
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Of course homelessness is an issue but ultimately these benches have not been erected to give homeless people a marginally more comfortable resting place. How would you feel about it if you ran a small business nearby like an ice cream stand or a cafe? The image and ambience of any place is important to it's prosperity, if people feel uneasy or unsafe visiting parks or towns then they won't bother and that place goes into decline so it's kinda understandable why councils and local authorities take measures like this. Of course in the same way that's why they should also do what they can to help the homeless out of their situation
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Of course homelessness is an issue but ultimately these benches have not been erected to give homeless people a marginally more comfortable resting place. How would you feel about it if you ran a small business nearby like an ice cream stand or a cafe? The image and ambience of any place is important to it's prosperity, if people feel uneasy or unsafe visiting parks or towns then they won't bother and that place goes into decline so it's kinda understandable why councils and local authorities take measures like this. Of course in the same way that's why they should also do what they can to help the homeless out of their situation
I would do what my favourite cafe does in a popular part of my cities core where business people and homeless alike frequent. I'd build a free food box with my left overs .. and probably off coffee and water to the people in need... build up a relationship... and let them know that during business hours I need the bench for customers but at night they are welcome to it.

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I would do what my favourite cafe does in a popular part of my cities core where business people and homeless alike frequent. I'd build a free food box with my left overs .. and probably off coffee and water to the people in need... build up a relationship... and let them know that during business hours I need the bench for customers but at night they are welcome to it.

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Of course homelessness is an issue but ultimately these benches have not been erected to give homeless people a marginally more comfortable resting place. How would you feel about it if you ran a small business nearby like an ice cream stand or a cafe? The image and ambience of any place is important to it's prosperity, if people feel uneasy or unsafe visiting parks or towns then they won't bother and that place goes into decline so it's kinda understandable why councils and local authorities take measures like this. Of course in the same way that's why they should also do what they can to help the homeless out of their situation
Well, tbh, if there was help so that these homeless people actually had alternatives to park benches it would be great.

However, many of these places close down, or in some areas simply don't exist.

I find that a tad more sad and important than the "ambience' for an ice cream truck.

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I haven't suggested you go and force counselling on a random drug addict LT.

Trying to take every last little right away from people who already have nothing is unnecessarily vindictive.

And for what? So Beatrice can take the twins to the park without the real world and its problems spoiling the terribly chipper and perfectly middle class view she's inflicting upon them that doesn't and will never exist?


Beartrice and her kids might just be one of those kind souls who stop and chat to the homeless, leaving them with something nice to eat...that is something you will just never know.
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Beartrice and her kids might just be one of those kind souls who stop and chat to the homeless, leaving them with something nice to eat...that is something you will just never know.
A lovely woman.
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