[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I’m not minimising anything you are focussing on two issues of discrimation that you obviously feel are more important that any other, as previously said this isn’t a competition, and the number of times it happens is not relevant, straight whites can experience sexual discrimination as part of a mixed race couple and a white person would rarely be welcomed into an Asian family. I see you didn’t comment on the traveller thread either which had some of the worse discrimation I have seen on TiBB and it was allowed to stand, imagine talking a black or Asian stereotype and applying it to a whole community, the masses would be baying for blood

This is simply a narrative that you are creating and attributing to me in order to warp what I'm saying instead of arguing against it.

I've never said that it's a competition either? I think you must have either confused my post for someone else's or you are simply reading into something that isn't there. Honestly, I don't really understand the point you are trying to make in relation to what I've said.

My points where very simple, I've experienced more discrimination when people believe me to be gay then if they believe me to be straight and that, in the western world, it's not really possible for white people to face the same issues of racism that say, a black person faces. I've never been discriminated on account of being a white person. I've also never been discriminated against when it comes to being a man, the only times it's come up is in conjunction with my sexuality.

I don't really understand how you got anything regarding a competition from that, I truly don't.

Going back to your examples, a straight white man in a mixed race relationship is not an example of sexual discrimination but of racism and it's ore often because people think the woman is not 'good enough' on accounts of her race. People aren't hating on that man because he is straight so to make out that he is being discriminated on account of his sexuality is just false. I think your point about Asian families is quite a broad stroke of a remark that is dated and not at all true for everyone. It's basically promoting a stereotype as the truth.

I didn't comment on this 'traveller thread' because I was probably busy doing something else. I don't see every thread, shockingly enough. I'm not on this forum 24/7. No one needs to comment on any thread to have their opinion validated in this thread in anyway. What you are doing with that is basically denying people their opinions unless they fulfill your quota and that's quite frankly bull****.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is simply a narrative that you are creating and attributing to me in order to warp what I'm saying instead of arguing against it.

I've never said that it's a competition either? I think you must have either confused my post for someone else's or you are simply reading into something that isn't there. Honestly, I don't really understand the point you are trying to make in relation to what I've said.

My points where very simple, I've experienced more discrimination when people believe me to be gay then if they believe me to be straight and that, in the western world, it's not really possible for white people to face the same issues of racism that say, a black person faces. I've never been discriminated on account of being a white person. I've also never been discriminated against when it comes to being a man, the only times it's come up is in conjunction with my sexuality.

I don't really understand how you got anything regarding a competition from that, I truly don't.

Going back to your examples, a straight white man in a mixed race relationship is not an example of sexual discrimination but of racism and it's ore often because people think the woman is not 'good enough' on accounts of her race. People aren't hating on that man because he is straight so to make out that he is being discriminated on account of his sexuality is just false. I think your point about Asian families is quite a broad stroke of a remark that is dated and not at all true for everyone. It's basically promoting a stereotype as the truth.

I didn't comment on this 'traveller thread' because I was probably busy doing something else. I don't see every thread, shockingly enough. I'm not on this forum 24/7. No one needs to comment on any thread to have their opinion validated in this thread in anyway. What you are doing with that is basically denying people their opinions unless they fulfill your quota and that's quite frankly bull****.

I didn't ask why you didn't comment on the traveller thread when it was going on, and if you didn't see it at the time I find that quite strange as you might not be on every day but that particular thread was bumped on more than one occasion, I asked why you didn't comment as part of this thread, as I posted it on here as it is relevant to the topic that white people cannot be discriminated against which you are going at some lengths to deny, I also note you didn't comment on my personal experience, but I guess I am the wrong colour for outrage..right?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I didn't ask why you didn't comment on the traveller thread when it was going on, and if you didn't see it at the time I find that quite strange as you might not be on every day but that particular thread was bumped on more than one occasion, I asked why you didn't comment as part of this thread, as I posted it on here as it is relevant to the topic that white people cannot be discriminated against which you are going at some lengths to deny, I also note you didn't comment on my personal experience, but I guess I am the wrong colour for outrage..right?

Cherie, I've just added my own thoughts to the topic and you commented on them. I haven't been reading the entire thread but judging from you confusing white people for being discriminated against based on other forms of discrimination for racism then I can only assume that's what's happened here.

In my eyes, white people in the west do not face anything close to the everyday racism that a black or an arabic person would face. It doesn't mean that white people can't face discrimination on other grounds but I just don't think racism affects us as much as it does the other races.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Cherie, I've just added my own thoughts to the topic and you commented on them. I haven't been reading the entire thread but judging from you confusing white people for being discriminated against based on other forms of discrimination for racism then I can only assume that's what's happened here.

In my eyes, white people in the west do not face anything close to the everyday racism that a black or an arabic person would face. It doesn't mean that white people can't face discrimination on other grounds but I just don't think racism affects us as much as it does the other races.

if it happens, it happens, saying it happens more to one group than another doesn't lessen the impact of discrimination

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

if it happens, it happens, saying it happens more to one group than another doesn't lessen the impact of discrimination

I'm not saying that, I just don't think that we suffer racism at the same level as other races do and we certainly don't suffer it at a systematic level and it's doubtful we ever will and we should be thankful for that.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not saying that, I just don't think that we suffer racism at the same level as other races do and we certainly don't suffer it at a systematic level and it's doubtful we ever will and we should be thankful for that.

What are you saying, that as a white woman if I am discriminated against, I should be thankful I haven't got it worse

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What are you saying, that as a white woman if I am discriminated against, I should be thankful I haven't got it worse

Absolutely not but let's be honest here, you already know that's not what I said.

Again, like I mentioned before, you are muddying the issue when I've been more than clear on what I mean.

What you are talking about here is sexism, sexism isn't dependant on the colour of your skin but your gender....obviously. For someone that incorrectly tried to make out that I was making discrimination a competition, you're doing an excellent job of trying to make discrimination a competition.

As white people, we do not experience racism on anywhere near the same level as other races, that is just the fact of the matter and we should be grateful for that.

I've said this a few times but hopefully this time you won't ignore it. White people do not suffer from discrimination based on racism on anywhere near the same level as other ehnicities but this doesn't mean that white people do not face discrimination on other grounds.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not saying that, I just don't think that we suffer racism at the same level as other races do and we certainly don't suffer it at a systematic level and it's doubtful we ever will and we should be thankful for that.

We likely would if we lived in many countries where whites weren't the norm. Just as blacks have it harder in many countries where non-whites aren't the norm.

I don't know the statistics worldwide but I wouldn't mind betting worldwide whites are in the minority.