[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

Ryan’s intent doesn’t matter...

Yes, it does. She said he punched her. He didn't ebrn makes contact! She lied.

[Pink Panther]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's her behaviour that seems to be the most unwelcome.

Drag both ha and that poster.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's her behaviour that seems to be the most unwelcome.

This!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kingston

I can’t believe there are people on this website that doesn’t understand the concept of consent and personal boundaries... It never ceases to amaze me how low fans of this show can go...

We do....but this scenario isn't an example of that when you have seen the bigger picture. You can't just pluck this out as an example of respecting people's boundaries if you have been watching this poor victim getting in everyone's face and disrespecting their boundaries (since everyone is sick to the teeth of her monopolising every moment for attention)...and how you can condone her behaviour beats me...that's low IMO.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think she overreacted.

I give up. Clearly you just don't get it.

I agree she overreacted but the fact remains just because you are comfortable with one person engaging with you in a certain way doesn't mean you HAVE to be comfortable with another person engaging with you in the same way. Not even sure how you keep missing the point actually.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Greg!

How far do we take this theory? So should all the housemates be banned from hugging the evictee and saying bye when the result is announced unless they get explicit consent? Stop being ridiculous and obtuse.

Consent is needed in ALL situations... It is perfectly acceptable for a HM to not want a hug from a particular HM or HM’s...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I give up. Clearly you just don't get it.

I agree she overreacted but the fact remains just because you are comfortable with one person engaging with you in a certain way doesn't mean you HAVE to be comfortable with another person engaging with you in rge same way. Not even sure how you keep missing the point actually.

She's the first to violate people's boundaries in there.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's the first to violate people's boundaries in there.

When?

[kingston]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

We do....but this scenario isn't an example of that when you have seen the bigger picture. You can't just pluck this out as an example of respecting people's boundaries if you have been watching this poor victim getting in everyone's face and disrespecting their boundaries (since everyone is sick to the teeth of her monopolising every moment for attention)...and how you can condone her behaviour beats me...that's low IMO.

Not once have I heard another HM say that Roxanne had violated their personal boundaries... She may get on peoples nerves but that is not the same thing...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

When?

She playfights with the boys all the time.

[tanussa]

I reckon she is mentally disturbed & I am beginning to find her really unhinged & quite scarey. I really feel for ryan, this could subdue his bubbly character, and for what. he did nothing wrong, nothing hostile. I really hope she has dug her own grave

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's the first to violate people's boundaries in there.

Please just accept that you can’t make a relevant argument instead of just throwing out random insults...

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She playfights with the boys all the time.

With Ben. He is happy to play along, whos boundaries were violated?

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by kingston

Consent is needed in ALL situations... It is perfectly acceptable for a HM to not want a hug from a particular HM or HM’s...

Okay so you think they should all just sit around at least 10ft apart from each other? Not go up to them and speak to them unless they get written permission? Where do you draw the line?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

Please just accept that you can’t make a relevant argument instead of just throwing out random insults...

She playfights with the boys all the time.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kingston

Roxanne didn’t “insinuate” anything...

OMG are you for real...she called him a woman beater and wanted him expelled from the house.......if that's not insinuating he is violent and not safe to be in the house with..

Hmm...me thinks you are on a wind up.

[Greg!]

Honestly if you're defending Roxanne in this situation in any way you really need to have a bloody word with yourself. He didn't even touch her! Her "ow" was delayed! She clutched the opposite side of her that was supposedly 'punched'!

[Pink Panther]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

OMG are you for real...she called him a woman beater and wanted him expelled from the house.......if that's not insinuating he is violent and not safe to be in the house with..

Hmm...me thinks you are on a wind up.

Obviously he agrees with us but is trolling.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

OMG are you for real...she called him a woman beater and wanted him expelled from the house.......if that's not insinuating he is violent and not safe to be in the house with..

Hmm...me thinks you are on a wind up.

The public are on Ryan's side on this and I'm glad. When Even DS is backing him, that says it all. They don't even like Ryan, but have called Roxanne out on her manipulative behaviour.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Pink Panther

Obviously he agrees with us but is trolling.

Just because somebody disagrees with you does not make them a troll.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Pink Panther

Obviously he agrees with us but is trolling.

He must be the Fiancé...

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She playfights with the boys all the time.

We’ve already explained to you many times why this argument is irrellevent...

[Amy Jade]

Whats the obsession with DS anyway? Who cares what they think?

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She playfights with the boys all the time.

correct, but never has it got physical, and she wasn't fighting back

Like what we gotta keep in mind is we don't know her history, sis could have some serious trauma-related history with physical violence and that's why it upset her when Ryan made contact, regardless of how light/joking he was and his intent

it's like saying it's okay to punch Conor McGregor because he fights 'all the time'

[Vanessa]

I'm just glad that the public can see right through Roxanne.