[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The sad thing is, Cian will continue being loyal to both Zoe and Cameron when neither deserves his loyalty or his friendship

He deserves a loyal friend. Poor guy.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The sad thing is, Cian will continue being loyal to both Zoe and Cameron when neither deserves his loyalty or his friendship

Dw Isabella will be by his side soon and ride off into the final two xx

[Garfie]

This seems to be a complete turnaround on Zoe's part, and Cameron's too, considering how close they all were just a short while ago. There seems some real hatred and resentment being directed towards Cian. Why has Zoe so suddenly positioned herself so closely with Lewis and Cameron at the expense of her other relationships in the house?

[rusticgal]

Zoe and Cian are on self destruct with their jealousy. Cian with Cameron and Zoe with Cian...both over something stupid.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Last week bawling over Cian welcoming Isabella, this week holding onto Lewis for dear life...and plotting to nominate him

I didnt like that either tonight and she would have been one of my favourites up to now

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I mean I don't like Zoe but I don't think there's any evidence of her being jealous of Sian, maybe she just doesn't like her? I don't like Sian and Brooke because Brooke has come across 2 faced and Sian comes across bitchy, but because they're both pretty women, does that mean 'm jealous?

The difference between you and Zoe is that you don't sound like a psychopath who has had these issues with Sian since the first week on a really personal level, I don't even like Sian but Zoe's dislike of her is out of proportion imo.

[Jordan.]

She seems to be a very possessive and envious person, if I had to guess I'd say she probably doesn't have many close friendships on the outside due to her son taking up most of her time that's why she's been so clingy with Cian and spiteful towards anyone she sees as a threat.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Garfie

This seems to be a complete turnaround on Zoe's part, and Cameron's too, considering how close they all were just a short while ago. There seems some real hatred and resentment being directed towards Cian. Why has Zoe so suddenly positioned herself so closely with Lewis and Cameron at the expense of her other relationships in the house?

...it kind of is a complete turnaround but then isn’t also for me.....it does make complete sense also...she hasn’t felt the same closeness to Cian since Isabella became part of the dynamics...so she's obviously vulnerable to having a more negative perspective of him because of that...she’s felt pushed out but she plays a big part in that pushing out herself, I feel...as she’s stepped back, rather than join in so the two become three, you know...it’s probably a bit of a six and two threes situation in that he hasn’t always thought to include her but she hasn’t tried to include herself, which she could easily do...etc, etc...anyway that all would make her vulnerable to how Lewis and Cameron feel about Cian...they seem to see him as some kind of jealous person because he’s not so close to Cameron anymore..and that seems to be constantly fed into Cameron by Lewis as well who absorbs every thought felt and every word uttered by Lewis....when actually as Cameron and Lewis have become closer and closer ...and Cameron and Cian, more distant..?...Cian has just been fine and dandy and focused in the other friendships he has and he has no problem with the more surface stuff as a balance, whereas Lewis just can’t seem to be around it and he’s enhancied that intolerance in Cameron..Zoe seems to have taken a little bit of ownership over her friendship with Cian, though...whereas Cian is not an ‘ownership’ type of person...he just connects with positivity, really..so connects equally with many in there...as sometimes he enjoys surface and fun and sometimes he enjoys deeper conversations etc...

[bots]

i think Cian is guilty by association with Sian, he shares too many letters with her

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I mean I don't like Zoe but I don't think there's any evidence of her being jealous of Sian, maybe she just doesn't like her? I don't like Sian and Brooke because Brooke has come across 2 faced and Sian comes across bitchy, but because they're both pretty women, does that mean 'm jealous?

She is jealous cause Sian has taken the mother role and seems to be the one hms go to for some motherly love.

[Cherie]

I havent seen any evidence of Cian being especially close to Isabella apart from Zoe bawling about it after she came in which I now feel was over exagerrated by her to put Cian in a bad light

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I like Zoe , glad she is waking up to the fakes and snakes in there

There is no one faker than Zoe

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think Cian is guilty by association with Sian, he shares too many letters with her

[Kazanne]

We may aswell all blame Lewis for Zoe and Camerons words and actions,it will save all the "disappointment of Zoe daring to like Lewis and Cameron"

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There is no one faker than Zoe

Not imo,there are a few slytherins in there

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We may aswell all blame Lewis for Zoe and Camerons words and actions,it will save all the "disappointment of Zoe daring to like Lewis and Cameron"

I havent said that at all, she was best friends with Cian to the point of crying in the DR over he being friendly with Isabella, then Cameron came out and now all if a sudden she is holding hands with LF on the sofa on eviction night, and talking negatively about her ‘friend’, she can like who she wants but why cant she be friends with both?

[bots]

I have difficulty liking any of the housemates, but I still find it very entertaining with all the backstabbing going on ... it's been a great series from that perspective

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I havent seen any evidence of Cian being especially close to Isabella apart from Zoe bawling about it after she came in which I now feel was over exagerrated by her to put Cian in a bad light

Cian is what someone pointed out yesterday .... A floater ......he goes from person to person telling tales, then he moves on and tells tales to someone else about the last person he was last talking to ....Hes very sly

[rusticgal]

I think Zoe is over sensitive. She's never forgiven Cian for attaching himself to Isabella when she came in. Despite their chat..she no longer trusts him.
She's found a loyal bond in Cameron and Lewis and she feels that they won't betray her as she feels Cian has.
Then again maybe she could be attaching herself to people she feels will carry her to the final?
Cian is so pissed at Cameron's loyalty to Lewis...hence his chat with Brooke. I thought Cian should have told Cameron to his face that he felt he was there for him too...but he knows he screwed it up that night he declared he fancied him and rained on Cameron's parade.

[GoldHeart]

And she has such a problem with Sian yet won't confront her . I find it so hypocritical how Cameron , Lewis & Zoe were bitching about other housemates yet Lewis has the nerve to say other people are talking behind eachother's back SURE okayyy .

[Ammi]

..I don’t think she’s a snake at all...she’s just feeling alienated from what was previously known as the misfit society and feeling lost, I think...she seems very lacking in self confidence as well...her only close friendship was Cian and she’s feeling the loss of that friendship since Isabella came into the house..I love Cian but it was quite incensitive of him to gush about how Isabella was just exactly his type of person and very typical of his outside friendships on the outside...having said that, they all go in as their own people so it’s not good to be reliant on someone else for your own stability and happiness in the house...

....but hmmmmm... Cameron was also a part of the misfit society also, was he not..then he alienated himself more and more from that group to align himself with Lewis and set himself apart...is he not a snake as well, then...surely the same thought process would apply...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And she has such a problem with Sian yet won't confront her . I find it so hypocritical how Cameron , Lewis & Zoe were bitching about other housemates yet Lewis has the nerve to say other people are talking behind eachother's back SURE okayyy .

...Zoe has always said that she has no level of having much in common with the ‘girlie girls’...and when Kenaley left, she talked about the bond she had with Sian because of their similarities in liking make up and doing their hair etc, type girlie stuff...and no she hasn’t confronted any girlie girl because why would she, what’s to confront...YOU STOP BEING A GIRLIE GIRL, It's driving me crazy and it’s horrid......and she’s generally not a confrontational person anyway...

[Kazanne]

Zoe probably gets on better with males than females as I tend to do, I like her,I don't see her as a snake she doesn't HAVE to like Sian etc, I don't like Sian either,somepeople you take to others not.

[Ammi]

...she seems to get on fine with females, Kaz...just not so much girlie girl, type females...which is more what Sian is...just struggling for a level of communication in common, I guess...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don’t think she’s a snake at all...she’s just feeling alienated from what was previously known as the misfit society and feeling lost, I think...she seems very lacking in self confidence as well...her only close friendship was Cian and she’s feeling the loss of that friendship since Isabella came into the house..I love Cian but it was quite incensitive of him to gush about how Isabella was just exactly his type of person and very typical of his outside friendships on the outside...having said that, they all go in as their own people so it’s not good to be reliant on someone else for your own stability and happiness in the house...

....but hmmmmm... Cameron was also a part of the misfit society also, was he not..then he alienated himself more and more from that group to align himself with Lewis and set himself apart...is he not a snake as well, then...surely the same thought process would apply...

Cameron is’nt plotting to nomiate Tomasz though who is his closest ‘misfit’ friend....what happened to John and Margaret and smushing cake in each others faces