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Yes I do, we can help ourselves along as best we can, but if you have been dealt a crap hand, its still not brilliant, and the opposite is also true.

Too many times now a sequence of events has led me to a point I would never have dreamt of getting to.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Yes I do, we can help ourselves along as best we can, but if you have been dealt a crap hand, its still not brilliant, and the opposite is also true.

Too many times now a sequence of events has led me to a point I would never have dreamt of getting to.

all life is, is a sequence of events though

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

all life is, is a sequence of events though

and if they are not in your control then its fate

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and if they are not in your control then its fate

Fate implies that you're following a predestined path though or outcome, not being in control of certain things in life doesn't equal a predestined path it just means that you weren't in control of a particular event at a particular time.

And also, what would be the point in having a predestained path anyway, like who or what is in control of it and if someone or something is in control of peoples paths why do some people end up with horrific lives or causing horrific pain on others (serial killers etc) Is whoever arranging these paths some sort of sadist?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Yes I do, we can help ourselves along as best we can, but if you have been dealt a crap hand, its still not brilliant, and the opposite is also true.

Too many times now a sequence of events has led me to a point I would never have dreamt of getting to.

This for me too now.

I always kept an open mind on things like this and now, I do lean much more to believing in it.

Like as you say, some things just go way out the way of just being coincidence.

So yes I do.