[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

That is for him and his family to decide, not unqualified keyboard pseudo mental health diagnosticians who believe dementors are real to decide.

I can't decide that, it was a well-meaning suggestion
dementors aren't real, but some people act like them so if the cap fits

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Lewis can hold his head high in the knowledge that he was the people fav and would have been the winner of the series if PCBritain hadn't reared its ugly head , Whatever happened to the freedom of speech our grandads fought for ? IF he had hit someone that would have been different but he didn't it was words ,so no way should he have been removed for that , remember the old saying before PC Britain arrived " Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me " I will NEVER condemn him for something he's said

Its been clear the last few shows that BB were waiting with baited breath for
Lewis to put a step wrong ,Rylan has whipped the BOTS audience into a frenzy over him and i commented on all the panel being against him on Thursday nights show, now this is rare that all 3 were anti one hm8 ,Doesn't take a lot of working out does it ? Enjoy your win Akeem safe in the knowledge you were BB chosen winner, but not the publics

I agree with you in principle, Chuff, and, therefore that Lewis left "on a technicality", but I still think he was totally obnoxious and am glad he's gone.

[Amy Jade]

I can't help but feel uncomfortable with people defending him blindly. What if he said something that personally offends you would you then change your opinion?

For instance if it were your child with a disability he called a 'mong' would you find that unacceptable or just allow it because we should have freedom of speech?

[Alf]

All we know right now is that they've kicked him out for no valid reason whatsoever. Unless they prove it by showing us the evidence, then we can only go with what we've got.

The biggest question right now is why are they withholding the evidence from us? what do they have to hide?

The guy is innocent until they prove him guilty.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I can't help but feel uncomfortable with people defending him blindly. What if he said something that personally offends you would you then change your opinion?

For instance if it were your child with a disability he called a 'mong' would you find that unacceptable or just allow it because we should have freedom of speech?

Hasn’t Zoe got a child with a disability? I wonder if it’s that

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I can't decide that, it was a well-meaning suggestion
dementors aren't real, but some people act like them so if the cap fits

Well meaning suggestion?

Post after post of demeaning his mental health does not equate with well meaning suggestions.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Alf

All we know right now is that they've kicked him out for no valid reason whatsoever. Unless they prove it by showing us the evidence, then we can only go with what we've got.

The biggest question right now is why are they withholding the evidence from us? what do they have to hide?

The guy is innocent until they prove him guilty.

Well no we don't all know he wasn't kicked out without a valid reason that just seems to be the fan argument which is pretty embarrassing. Tin foil hat anyone?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Hasn’t Zoe got a child with a disability? I wonder if it’s that

Oh I'm not too sure, I just remember he's 10 thats about it

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I can't help but feel uncomfortable with people defending him blindly. What if he said something that personally offends you would you then change your opinion?

For instance if it were your child with a disability he called a 'mong' would you find that unacceptable or just allow it because we should have freedom of speech?

That is not the fault of viewers.

If they were given even a statement that cleared up the confusion, I am sure that people will be able to then judge Lewis on his actions.

I know there are lines that shouldn't be crossed and if he has, then that's it for me but until then..............

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Well no we don't all know he wasn't kicked out without a valid reason that just seems to be the fan argument which is pretty embarrassing. Tin foil hat anyone?

He said nothing bad to anyone and big brother have made this up and falsely accused him of something he didn't do, prove me wrong.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Alf

All we know right now is that they've kicked him out for no valid reason whatsoever. Unless they prove it by showing us the evidence, then we can only go with what we've got.

The biggest question right now is why are they withholding the evidence from us? what do they have to hide?

The guy is innocent until they prove him guilty.

We don't know they are hiding anything until Sunday really. But WHY would they randomly kick out the huge fave to win, for no reason besides some trumped up 'charge' that didn't even offend anyone? It makes no sense. All they really care about is the cash, thats why they have done numerous twists to try and keep him for the final, as they know he would bring in a lot. Then for them to abandon this completely and eject him, it makes no sense at all!

Mind I do think they are unlikely to show us anything. Because if they showed us a bunch of tossers would complain to ofcom about offensive scenes

[Daniel-X]

He really has got his fans defending him regardless of anything he does

At the end of the day, call it rigging all you want. Producers WANTED Lewis to win, and it was clear as day from last weeks ridiculous double eviction and the insane amount of power they gave to Cameron.

Lewis clearly overstepped a line, and some defending him with no knowledge as to what has actually been said, or how it’s affected people is quite... unsettling.

So no, he can’t hold his head up high for sweet FA. He blew his own (high) chances of winning by being an offensive, nasty little man, something he’s been all series long.

[bots]

its really the same thing that people have been pissed about since that poll on the voting thing happened and then the week in a day ... and then the nominate your favourite

If people are going to vote, they want transparency. Tell the viewer before hand whats going to happen, and if someone gets ejected, show why it happened. Beep out offending words if necessary, but at least show the context

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I wonder about Cameron as he has only just come out and wouldn't have had any sort of gay name calling personally, happen before.

He might have been upset and confided in the Diary Room and it might have been picked up that way after reviewing the footage.

Pure speculation but with the way BB handles these situations, they actually encourage it.

Omg if he has he will be feeling bad imo. Thereagain if it is to do with another HM would they have to request a removal before it takes place? I remember with one of the shows someone going in an requesting anothers removal because of something untoward (was it Nolans show?) the HM was gone. On the other hand in the same show someone else did something and got away with it. Nothing was fair...

If Cameron has then it will be a bitter sweet win for him....on the other hand it would show who the favourite was?

All this speculation makes one wonder altogether as we dont really know other than the fact that the winner has gone

[Alf]

We deserve to see the so called incident, what are they hiding?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Alf

We deserve to see the so called incident, what are they hiding?

Agreed for sure. Even if they have to preface it with Marcus rambling about all the 'offensive scenes' that were coming up..seeing as they seemingly have to do even bad language warnings, for a show on at bloody 10pm, because of serial complainers

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

That is not the fault of viewers.

If they were given even a statement that cleared up the confusion, I am sure that people will be able to then judge Lewis on his actions.

I know there are lines that shouldn't be crossed and if he has, then that's it for me but until then..............

Even if it is not shown you can guarantee it was awful though if they felt the need to eject him on one action alone. In the diary room when he was told to go they never said he was going after repeated warnings and they showed Rodrigo saying the n word so it must have been something without questionable context. Lewis even admitted it was an awful slip of the tongue.

If it were Sian in this positionI wouldn't swear blind devotion to her like some Lewis supporters are.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

He really has got his fans defending him regardless of anything he does

At the end of the day, call it rigging all you want. Producers WANTED Lewis to win, and it was clear as day from last weeks ridiculous double eviction and the insane amount of power they gave to Cameron.

Lewis clearly overstepped a line, and some defending him with no knowledge as to what has actually been said, or how it’s affected people is quite... unsettling.

So no, he can’t hold his head up high for sweet FA. He blew his own (high) chances of winning by being an offensive, nasty little man, something he’s been all series long.

Only in the view of some which is normal BB standards. Many will still stand up for him as he has made the show for all the HMs, they have gained time through their bickering of them. They have been able to show what angels they are....

[AnnieK]

He must have done something pretty real and bad as there is no way they would want to lose the money they will have done by removing him for nothing before the vote to win lines open, knowing the level of support he has they would have coined it in. Just hope they do give us some clarification

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

We don't know they are hiding anything until Sunday really. But WHY would they randomly kick out the huge fave to win, for no reason besides some trumped up 'charge' that didn't even offend anyone? It makes no sense. All they really care about is the cash, thats why they have done numerous twists to try and keep him for the final, as they know he would bring in a lot. Then for them to abandon this completely and eject him, it makes no sense at all!

Mind I do think they are unlikely to show us anything. Because if they showed us a bunch of tossers would complain to ofcom about offensive scenes

The so called incident would have happened in last nights show and they kept it from us.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Alf

He said nothing bad to anyone and big brother have made this up and falsely accused him of something he didn't do, prove me wrong.

You prove Big Brother wrong.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Alf

The so called incident would have happened in last nights show and they kept it from us.

they may do an "earlier" segment and then go into the housemates reaction, but I don't think they will

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You prove Big Brother wrong.

Why are you on their side fighting their battles? are you not one of us, the viewers?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Alf

The so called incident would have happened in last nights show and they kept it from us.

If it only happened yesterday as it seemed..it wouldnt be shown til saturday surely? IDK..only came back here after someone on my FB said Lewis had been ejected, to try and find out the story as I didn't want to watch yet more riggage so once they tried switching to VTS I turned off, Whatever happened here, I am sure the producers are so pissed off

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

He really has got his fans defending him regardless of anything he does

At the end of the day, call it rigging all you want. Producers WANTED Lewis to win, and it was clear as day from last weeks ridiculous double eviction and the insane amount of power they gave to Cameron.

Lewis clearly overstepped a line, and some defending him with no knowledge as to what has actually been said, or how it’s affected people is quite... unsettling.

So no, he can’t hold his head up high for sweet FA. He blew his own (high) chances of winning by being an offensive, nasty little man, something he’s been all series long.

This post has just as much anti bias and is akin to the pro Lewis bias you are complaining about.

If it was tempered by a reasoned opinion and not demeaning other posters opinions it would be helpful, but it is slating them for exactly the same reasons you have used yourself.

No, you do not know what the reason was either, that is the problem, let's just wait and see before you jump the gun and let us all find out so we can then choose what we want to do.