[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

The others have spoken and it has been shown, several times,

Sian has not. Doesn't it make you wonder why, hasn't it been normal to speak about your loved ones in there?

There is literally hours upon hours of unseen footage of Sian in that house. She's been in there as long as any of them and you have seen less of her than probably any of them. The only thing you know is that she hasn't been shown talking about her son.

There is no reason why Sian would be treated differently from others and her comments excluded.

Of course there is. If she's just having a normal conversation about her son liking football rather than blubbing like an idiot about missing him they're not going to include that.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Or she's an old fashioned steely British girl from Yorkshire. They don't weep like sentimental idiots. Contrast Churchill's funeral to Diana's. The British people didn't cry back then. By the time of Diana's funeral everyone was blubbing like an idiot. It was nauseating.

It may not be for you but crying after a death is cathartic. There is no comparison between a young mothers tragic passing and an elderly mans demise.

Isn't Zoe a northern girl? She has no problem with tears or speaking about her child.

You really are sounding like Lewis's fans, it is so pleasing. I also think Sian will be the next out of the door, she can get back to her child and other family, she won't be much missed.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't know any stay at home Mums, they all work outside the home either full or part time, I agree men get away with far too much, I can't comment on Sians status or where the Dad is as it has only been mentioned that she is a single Mum

I agree, I always worked but the job I had enabled me to take my son with me, I was lucky. Also my hubby was at home to take his share of the responsibility. The children always came first.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

It may not be for you but crying after a death is cathartic. There is no comparison between a young mothers tragic passing and an elderly mans demise.

Either that or the country has become incontinent over the last few decades (more likely).

Isn't Zoe a northern girl? She has no problem with tears

Yeah, but she should. This is the country of the stiff upper lip.

or speaking about her child.

You don't know that Sian hasn't spoken about her child. Again, hours upon hours of footage. I doubt Sian has broken down when speaking about her child and that's usually the only time they show a person doing so.

You really are sounding like Lewis's fans, it is so pleasing. I also think Sian will be the next out of the door, she can get back to her child and other family, she won't be much missed.

If she goes on Friday, there will only be one highlight show left, so she won't be much more missed than any of the rest of them who will be leaving shortly afterwards.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What goes around, comes around.

Lewis was slated for every miniscule perceived flaw again and again and again. He was mocked, gloated over his failings and by quite a few posters who became recognizable by their vindictiveness.

Now, you are complaining that the person you are rooting for has received the same.

Perhaps it could be karma.

Well said Poppsy,so many hypocritical views in here

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Look at her face in the video, Zoe and Cian are in tears but she is stone cold.

That's one hard woman.

I didn't see Lewis crying when Kay left, did you?

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

There is literally hours upon hours of unseen footage of Sian in that house. She's been in there as long as any of them and you have seen less of her than probably any of them. The only thing you know is that she hasn't been shown talking about her son.



Of course there is. If she's just having a normal conversation about her son liking football rather than blubbing like an idiot about missing him they're not going to include that.

Why not, we have had all sorts of conversations about family and loved ones, why doesn't she contribute because she hasn't.

Throw up all sorts of tenuous reasons, such as funerals and such, it doesn't turn her into anything more than a very bitchy smirky cold woman.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Not playing the '____ must love their child more' game at all. You disgust me.

Where did it originally begin, it is obviously a point which has been observed from the house. It is no more than anyone else getting criticised from a point of view. Sometimes I guess we judge the HM on our own experiences and I have no doubt, like myself, others can feel their own emotions.

We are all on a learning curb and empathy is a great thing to have, the house is only a gameshow. We each have our favourites.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I didn't see Lewis crying when Kay left, did you?

They all had a cuddle in the living room and waved her off, did you forget?

My, what else do you want?

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I didn't see Lewis crying when Kay left, did you?

Why should he of, Kay wanted to go all the time she thought she was too good for the house. Viewers were saying, for goodness sake go.. It was way at the beginning and ....... not to worry

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Why not, we have had all sorts of conversations about family and loved ones

We haven't. It's rare that we do. And again, the only time they tend to show this stuff is if someone has broken down when speaking about a family member. Sian certainly isn't the type to break down. but to say she doesn't speak about her child when you know there's hours upon hours of footage you haven't seen is moronic, and I won't respond to you making this silly point again.

Throw up all sorts of tenuous reasons, such as funerals and such, it doesn't turn her into anything more than a very bitchy smirky cold woman.

Your arguments are empty and all you can do is return to the same remarks over and over. Tedious.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Either that or the country has become incontinent over the last few decades (more likely).



Yeah, but she should. This is the country of the stiff upper lip.



You don't know that Sian hasn't spoken about her child. Again, hours upon hours of footage. I doubt Sian has broken down when speaking about her child and that's usually the only time they show a person doing so.



If she goes on Friday, there will only be one highlight show left, so she won't be much more missed than any of the rest of them who will be leaving shortly afterwards.

Your first comment is very strange so I think that I will leave you with it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

They all had a cuddle in the living room and waved her off, did you forget?

My, what else do you want?

and so did Sian and Kay, that clip you are referring to is after Kays exit, Sian wasn't even close to her, but St Lewis was and he was more or less the reason for her leaving, did he show any remorse? You are the one wanting emotion from someone who wasn't even involved with Kay, I dont think they even spoke to each other

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Your first comment is very strange so I think that I will leave you with it

My first remark is an observation many people have made about this country. It used to be known for its stiff upper lip but it is now full of people who let it all hang out in the most nauseating manner. It's not Sian who is the strange one, it's the people who break down in tears over bugger all who are.

[OldShagBuilt]

i find akeem boring too its not just sian, also brooke i dont like much but sian is the least entertaining for me. i think she is fake and trying to sneak through quietly... look at her social media accounts....that is not a low key quiet woman lol

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and so did Sian and Kay, that clip you are referring to is after Kays exit, Sian wasn't even close to her, but St Lewis was and he was more or less the reason for her leaving, did he show any remorse? You are the one wanting emotion from someone who wasn't even involved with Kay, I dont think they even spoke to each other

Back to Lewis again, it is tedious beyond belief. It isn't mandatory to bring him into everything, he's gone. Get over him.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by LukeB

They are bitter Sian is a decent person and Lewis isn’t, they will blame everyone but lewis.

1. That was part of the game and she rightfully played it

2.Sian would be fake if she showed emotion about lewis being ejected but she hugged Cameron because he cried about it OTT

3. Zoe took Sian’s 0 coins and Sian did say it was low but Sian still gave Zoe a letter.


But they choose not to remember any of that

From what I have read, Lewis's fans do not make light of the event, they do not cast blame because they do not know. They stand firm but they also stay loyal in the knowledge that we all make mistakes.

Cian, can never understand why Cian would cry over anyone, I have watched him squeeze the tears out, so fake and yes OTT. Each would have been trying to put their good side forward in that game.

I am sure that many do remember, they remember a lot of things, the injustices etc. etc. but at the end of the day they remember that Lewis was their choice of a winner. They will remember how Akeem and Lewis were made the scapegoats for the noms, why, two different characters. They will remember that some havent even been up and yet they sit in joy thinking they have got to the end.....possibly because they just stuck together or stayed out of the limelight in the house. Gameplayers until the end.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by OldShagBuilt

i find akeem boring too its not just sian, also brooke i dont like much but sian is the least entertaining for me. i think she is fake and trying to sneak through quietly... look at her social media accounts....that is not a low key quiet woman lol

This.

She has also had several "east angular" type moments where she pretends she doesn't know what words mean.

Calculating, and sly.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

My first remark is an observation many people have made about this country. It used to be known for its stiff upper lip but it is now full of people who let it all hang out in the most nauseating manner. It's not Sian who is the strange one, it's the people who break down in tears over bugger all who are.

The death of a young princess and mother was not bugger all.

Agreed, there is an overbundance of tears especially in the BB house.

Sian is the polar opposite of this and just because you don't see her like others does not mean their comments are any less valid than yours.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

The death of a young princess and mother was not bugger all.

You don't cry at funerals. You never used to. The British didn't over Churchill and he was a national hero. Diana was some disco queen media *****. Something had changed in the British character over the decades for scenes like that to take place. I'm positively inclined to more stoical characters whenever I see them today.

Agreed, there is an overbundance of tears especially in the BB house.

Indeed.

Sian is the polar opposite of this and just because you don't see her like others does not mean their comments are any less valid than yours.

They are less valid than mine because they're invariably wrong.

[Jules82]

Yaki I cannot find the post where you comment on Churchill, I say with total respect that in those days many broke their hearts, they lost loved ones and families were destroyed. Sadly it may be something like this which brought the end of Lewis's time, an innocent remark which could put peoples back up. Churchill would have had many crying over him.

I personally didnt shed a tear for Diana but that is another story

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by OldShagBuilt

look at her social media accounts....that is not a low key quiet woman lol

Just looked at her twitter page. It has 3 pictures of her with her son. She has tweeted once and is following 18 people.

Here...

https://twitter.com/sianhamshaw

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jules82

Yaki I cannot find the post where you comment on Churchill, I say with total respect that in those days many broke their hearts, they lost loved ones and families were destroyed.

There was no one blubbing (except for one woman who stood out like a sore thumb) at Churchill's funeral. In those days the British did not do such things. The journalist Peter Hitchens wrote about the change in the British character that had taken place over those decades by contrasting those two funerals.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

They just need to get over Lewis being ejected, they are attacking people on twitter and anyone is against Lewis. It’s not their fault he was ejected should have followed the rules like our Sian

No offence but you could say this about Sian's fans too who have created countless threads about Lewis's removal many of which are celebrating his ejection.

Very hypocritical if you ask me.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

There was no one blubbing (except for one woman who stood out like a sore thumb) at Churchill's funeral. In those days the British did not do such things. The journalist Peter Hitchens wrote about the change in the British character that had taken place over those decades by contrasting those two funerals.

Wasn't that in the 60s. Nearly 60 years ago, things have moved on you know.