[Livia]

Opening our borders and letting in all the trash in the world caused a rise in the far right. Shhhhh though.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Opening our borders and letting in all the trash in the world caused a rise in the far right. Shhhhh though.

Lovely

[bots]

if people are extremists they will continue to be extremists whether brexit is blocked or not. As an example, Nigel never stopped being an arse after the referendum, not even for a minute.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if people are extremists they will continue to be extremists whether brexit is blocked or not. As an example, Nigel never stopped being an arse after the referendum, not even for a minute.

LOL... true.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if people are extremists they will continue to be extremists whether brexit is blocked or not. As an example, Nigel never stopped being an arse after the referendum, not even for a minute.

King of consistency

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Lovely

You may want to pretend that we've not let anyone dubious in, and as ever, that's your right.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Livia

Opening our borders and letting in all the trash in the world caused a rise in the far right. Shhhhh though.

You are far right or not...no one is to blame for that....sure carry on deffering to your fellow humans as trash..I guess they have the wrong skin colour and relegion.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lime

You are far right or not...no one is to blame for that....sure carry on deffering to your fellow humans as trash..I guess they have the wrong skin colour and relegion.

With respect Lime, you know nothing about me and I object to you assuming I'm racist.

I am the descendent of refugees. That doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge that this country's open door policy and our habit of allowing illegal migrants to stay, has meant that not just hard working, tax paying law abiding people have entered and sadly, we don't know exactly how many have arrived - good and bad.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Livia

With respect Lime, you know nothing about me and I object to you assuming I'm racist.

I am the descendent of refugees. That doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge that this country's open door policy and our habit of allowing illegal migrants to stay, has meant that not just hard working, tax paying law abiding people have entered and sadly, we don't know exactly how many have arrived - good and bad.

And with respect Livia your post i quoted said nothing about illegal migrants ( still think it's dreadfull to refer to illegals as trash)

I'm not sure you are a racist ...only you know that..I do however object to you refering to illegal migrants as trash....did history teach us nothing?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lime

And with respect Livia your post i quoted said nothing about illegal migrants ( still think it's dreadfull to refer to illegals as trash)

I'm not sure you are a racist ...only you know that..I do however object to you refering to illegal migrants as trash....did history teach us nothing?

Well object away, Lime. I stand by what I said, the dregs I referred to are the dregs. The criminals the terrorists, the pickpockets... dregs.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well object away, Lime. I stand by what I said, the dregs I referred to are the dregs. The criminals the terrorists, the pickpockets... dregs.

TBf Livia you have moved the goalpsts.

you started off refreing to immigrants as trash..and then went on to blame migrants for crime..You either have an opinions or not...maybe just own it ?
The oringial post of yours that I quoted was not about the "dregs" of soiceity .


You were takling about illegal migrants and referring to them as trash...take a moment and imagine the Uk didn't give your people a chance to settle...Then yor people would be illegal immigrants?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Opening our borders and letting in all the trash in the world caused a rise in the far right. Shhhhh though.

To have such a problem with European immigrants probably means that the far right was already present in the UK but was just lying dormant.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

To have such a problem with European immigrants probably means that the far right was already present in the UK but was just lying dormant.

Wanting to keep affordable housing, our benefit system and the NHS for the people who contribute to it is not a far right or extremist philosophy though, it's simple fair play

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Wanting to keep affordable housing, our benefit system and the NHS for the people who contribute to it is not a far right or extremist philosophy though, it's simple fair play

and it is what they do in many countries in the EU for instance Spain and no one has an issue

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Wanting to keep affordable housing, our benefit system and the NHS for the people who contribute to it is not a far right or extremist philosophy though, it's simple fair play

But Bots, we have to let everyone in! Otherwise we're all bloody racists!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

But Bots, we have to let everyone in! Otherwise we're all bloody racists!

I generally hate this viewpoint from the right, it's just misinformation to further their agenda. It's like how the right in the US make out that gun control = banning all guns in order to completely disrupt any attempts of common sense gun control being implemented.

Nobody worth listening to on either the right, left or centre wants open borders.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

But Bots, we have to let everyone in! Otherwise we're all bloody racists!

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I generally hate this viewpoint from the right, it's just misinformation to further their agenda. It's like how the right in the US make out that gun control = banning all guns in order to completely disrupt any attempts of common sense gun control being implemented.

Nobody worth listening to on either the right, left or centre wants open borders.

It's a waste of time Dezzy, it doesn't matter how many times you say "sensible immigration controls are required" zitll just be met with the same old strawman sarcasm because its easier to win an argument against something made-up than to actually bother to formulate any sort of genuine reasoning.

"AHA! So you're saying you LOVE terrorists and you want them to live in your spare room! I knew it!"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's a waste of time Dezzy, it doesn't matter how many times you say "sensible immigration controls are required" zitll just be met with the same old strawman sarcasm because its easier to win an argument against something made-up than to actually bother to formulate any sort of genuine reasoning.

"AHA! So you're saying you LOVE terrorists and you want them to live in your spare room! I knew it!"

Tbf that is not mooted at all, for instance the Dover crossing where people are coming across from a safe country, and people highlight that this is not a safe way to accept immigrants, the argument is 'wouldn't you do the same in their shoes', etc etc etc