[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Within the first 5 seconds it says bullying, the me to movement, toxic masculinity. It goes on to show men harassing and mansplaining to women.

We're not all Harvey Weinstein.

Most men are brilliant people.

Yes there was lots in the advert too....

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes there was lots in the advert too....

What would you think to advert selling ladies beauty products by mentioning women are the biggest murderers because of abortion? Would you be fine with that as long as it showed some good women too?

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Alf

What would you think to advert selling ladies beauty products by mentioning women are the biggest murderers because of abortion? Would you be fine with that as long as it showed some good women too?

Abortion isn't murder ... so I would think they got their facts really wrong.
But this ad didn't start with false facts

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Abortion isn't murder ... so I would think they got their facts really wrong.
But this ad didn't start with false facts

Some people think it is.

I could say masculinity isn't toxic

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Alf

Some people think it is.

I could say masculinity isn't toxic

Some people think wrong. It's legal.. murder isn't.

They didn't say masculinity is toxic... they were talking about a type of masculinity called toxic masculinity.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

What would you think to advert selling ladies beauty products by mentioning women are the biggest murderers because of abortion? Would you be fine with that as long as it showed some good women too?

Murder is illegal and abortion is not so that would be a falsity

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Murder is illegal and abortion is not so that would be a falsity

Being masculing isn't illegal, doesn't stop people calling it toxic.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Being masculing isn't illegal, doesn't stop people calling it toxic.

I think you're misunderstanding the term Toxic Masculinity Alf, maybe that's why you're feeling unnecessarily offended.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think you're misunderstanding the term Toxic Masculinity Alf, maybe that's why you're feeling unnecessarily offended.

What's to understand? It's exactly what it says. Some people think masculinity is toxic, just as some people think abortion is murder. Now I ask you again, would you be happy with an advert bringing it up?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

What's to understand? It's exactly what it says. Some people think masculinity is toxic, just as some people think abortion is murder. Now I ask you again, would you be happy with an advert bringing it up?

So yes you misunderstand toxic masculinity. Mokka already explained up thread

I've already answered your question, do you want me to just repeat it again? I can if you like, here goes :

"Murder is illegal and abortion is not so that would be a falsity"

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Alf

Being masculing isn't illegal, doesn't stop people calling it toxic.

Theres a burger, and then theres a cheese burger - they both exist, but one kind has cheese

Then theres masculinity, and toxic masculinity - they both exist, but one kind is toxic.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Withano

Theres a burger, and then theres a cheese burger - they both exist, but one kind has cheese

Then theres masculinity, and toxic masculinity - they both exist, but one kind is toxic.

Ethonol is toxic, men being men is not.

You just call masculine men toxic because you dislike masculine men, you dislike them for the crime of being masculine men, you're a hater, and that's fine.

I can call you a toxic social justice, PC, femo-man warrior, but it doesn't make it a real thing

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

Ethonol is toxic, men being men is not.

You just call masculine men toxic because you dislike masculine men, you dislike them for the crime of being masculine men, you're a hater, and that's fine.

I can call you a toxic social justice, PC, femo-man warrior, but it doesn't make a real thing

don't hold back, Alf!

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Alf

Ethonol is toxic, men being men is not.

You just call masculine men toxic because you dislike masculine men, you dislike them for the crime of being masculine men, you're a hater, and that's fine.

I can call you a toxic social justice, PC, femo-man warrior, but it doesn't make a real thing

A masculine man is masculinity. That is an entirely different thing to toxic masculinity, you’re gonna have to scratch your head for this one though, I made that comment before I realised this thread had 7 pages and you were confused on every single one of them.

You are the one calling masculinity toxic. Nobody else is. Everybody realises masculinity can exist with or without toxicity.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Ethonol is toxic, men being men is not.

You just call masculine men toxic because you dislike masculine men, you dislike them for the crime of being masculine men, you're a hater, and that's fine.

I can call you a toxic social justice, PC, femo-man warrior, but it doesn't make it a real thing

Just for you Alf

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