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25-01-2019, 11:21 AM | #26 | |||
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(Obviously this excludes far right nutters) |
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25-01-2019, 11:25 AM | #27 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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Out of interest what is your stance on Scotland being in the UK? Do you want them to stay or leave?
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25-01-2019, 11:29 AM | #28 | ||
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However his ideas are already set in concrete and he is very, very rarely open to "having his mind changed" and therein lies the problem. There's no point in open dialogue and discussion when the end result is the same unwavering dogma at the end of the discussion as at the beginning. And this is where I don't think it's a political spectrum phenomena or a generational one; it's purely down to age. As we get older, we get better at accepting that we usually aren't going to change people's opinions, and thus, less frustrated when we try and fail, and more open to "agreeing to disagree" and then moving on and compartmentalising the discussion. Which is a good skill to have but it's one that most (vaguely intelligent) people gain with age and experience. |
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25-01-2019, 11:40 AM | #29 | |||
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And if I'm being honest I do think that YouGov's poll is bogus because just on here alone I see a lot of intolerance from the Brexit (mainly voted for by people on the right wing) be way more stubborn over how to conclude the negotiations with the EU in a satisfactory way, they also do seem to be very happy to ignore nearly half the UK's wishes (who voted for Remain) for a soft Brexit and maybe even take the Norway model. I've also tended to notice that some Brexiters have been very big on the name calling during debates such as “snowflakes” “remoaners” “scroungers” etc etc which isn't really showing signs of a group that's tolerant towards opposing opinions imo. But going back to my original point, everybody always sees the opposing sides in any kind of topic as stubborn and intolerant, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are.
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25-01-2019, 11:48 AM | #30 | |||
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My opinion when the Scottish referendum was happening was. I'd like the Scots to stay with us, but if they want their independence, then that's up to them. |
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25-01-2019, 12:10 PM | #31 | |||
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The UK and the EU do have things in common, yet in this country it's perfectly fine to want to be apart of the UK, but not to be apart of the EU where we have 27 of our neighbouring countries in an alliance with us, it's a strong trade block that we never should be leaving imo.
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25-01-2019, 12:41 PM | #32 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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That's not even remotely true. Democrats have been mocked for years for caving into the crazy demands of the right, even right wing pundits in the age of trump have begged them to grow a backbone.
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25-01-2019, 12:47 PM | #33 | |||
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If you think our country is in turmoil at the moment, it's nothing compared to what's happening in mainland Europe right now. We're getting out at the right time before the sh!t hits the fan (that's if we do get out) |
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25-01-2019, 12:49 PM | #34 | |||
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25-01-2019, 12:53 PM | #35 | |||
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65 per cent of new British laws are made in Brussels so 65% would be a good answer start?
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25-01-2019, 12:54 PM | #36 | |||
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and we could get our proper suction hoovers back
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25-01-2019, 12:55 PM | #37 | |||
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Which decisions? Give examples of what laws you're looking forward to us implementing, that the EU have been holding us back from.
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25-01-2019, 12:55 PM | #38 | |||
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and get back proper lightbulbs and bins
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25-01-2019, 12:57 PM | #39 | |||
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and the ''life will be so much better when we're out'' well you guys were already fools in the eyes of EU and that will remain the same or come over as even bigger fools + many companies leaving UK for europe, so i guess many british people go unemployed bc of brexit now |
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25-01-2019, 12:59 PM | #40 | |||
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Lots EU decisions are taken under "qualified majority voting" rules, this is where countries voting weights depend on their size.
That means countries can be outvoted, and forced to accept decisions with which they disagree. Britain is outvoted more often than any other country. source: da Telegraph |
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25-01-2019, 12:59 PM | #41 | |||
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I have a mixture of political persuasions amongst my friends and family and I can't remember ever seriously falling out with anyone about politics. On the forum though... different matter. I've had friends turn into enemies because I disagree with their political stance.
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25-01-2019, 01:00 PM | #42 | |||
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25-01-2019, 01:01 PM | #43 | |||
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25-01-2019, 01:01 PM | #44 | |||
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I dont think they thought that when they rolled over and got done by the Germans during the war and came running to Britain to sort out the Bosh? Holland got taken over by 5 germans and a panzer tank |
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25-01-2019, 01:04 PM | #45 | |||
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25-01-2019, 01:04 PM | #46 | |||
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am i a proud dutchman myself? NO, my country also has it's flaws in politics i like UK, but i just wish we could respect each other in a mature way (without the ''EU similar to Soviet Union'' and etc insults) |
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25-01-2019, 01:07 PM | #47 | |||
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25-01-2019, 01:07 PM | #48 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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25-01-2019, 01:07 PM | #49 | |||
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No one is going to respect anyone while you're referring to them as fools. |
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25-01-2019, 01:09 PM | #50 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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I thought you wanted to be friend with the UK Nicky, what's changed
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