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Old 14-02-2019, 08:15 PM #1
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Imo both are suffering.
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It’s self inflicted. I wouldn’t have much sympathy for someone suffering a hangover after deliberately drinking too much alcohol
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Does her unborn child deserve to die for her mistakes? Do the children that get victimised and abused in IS' territories deserve it because of who their parents are?

Honestly the attitude displayed by a lot of members in this thread is disgusting. A complete lack of empathy and straight up sense from a lot of people I expected more from.

If she comes back she's not gonna have a 'cushy' life as I believe at least one member was making out, she'd likely be charged and imprisoned for a very long time and then placed on watchlists after that. She probably won't get to see her child raised and that's her own fault but her child will likely be raised in a loving environment where they won't be indoctrinated and turned into a child soldier or raised to be a radicalised baby factory. Children shouldn't suffer for their parents' sins.

Plus, as others have said, she's a British, she's our responsibility and she was radicalised here. We can't just pass the buck especially considering the people saying that would be very much for deporting her if the situation was reversed. Let her come back, throw her in prison and hopefully get some useful information out of her and let her child live a normal life.
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Does her unborn child deserve to die for her mistakes? Do the children that get victimised and abused in IS' territories deserve it because of who their parents are?

Honestly the attitude displayed by a lot of members in this thread is disgusting. A complete lack of empathy and straight up sense from a lot of people I expected more from.

If she comes back she's not gonna have a 'cushy' life as I believe at least one member was making out, she'd likely be charged and imprisoned for a very long time and then placed on watchlists after that. She probably won't get to see her child raised and that's her own fault but her child will likely be raised in a loving environment where they won't be indoctrinated and turned into a child soldier or raised to be a radicalised baby factory. Children shouldn't suffer for their parents' sins.

Plus, as others have said, she's a British, she's our responsibility and she was radicalised here. We can't just pass the buck especially considering the people saying that would be very much for deporting her if the situation was reversed. Let her come back, throw her in prison and hopefully get some useful information out of her and let her child live a normal life.
People on the thread are reacting to her interview, not to what may or may not happen to her on her return, she personally wants to come back to live quietly with her child, she wants to return like nothing has happened and that she should just be accepted back as if she had never run off to fight against the west in the first place. It has already been established very early in the thread that only a very small percentage of returning Jihadi's ever get to see the inside of a court so I expect the same will happen with her if she does get back.
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Does her unborn child deserve to die for her mistakes? Do the children that get victimised and abused in IS' territories deserve it because of who their parents are?

Honestly the attitude displayed by a lot of members in this thread is disgusting. A complete lack of empathy and straight up sense from a lot of people I expected more from.

If she comes back she's not gonna have a 'cushy' life as I believe at least one member was making out, she'd likely be charged and imprisoned for a very long time and then placed on watchlists after that. She probably won't get to see her child raised and that's her own fault but her child will likely be raised in a loving environment where they won't be indoctrinated and turned into a child soldier or raised to be a radicalised baby factory. Children shouldn't suffer for their parents' sins.

Plus, as others have said, she's a British, she's our responsibility and she was radicalised here. We can't just pass the buck especially considering the people saying that would be very much for deporting her if the situation was reversed. Let her come back, throw her in prison and hopefully get some useful information out of her and let her child live a normal life.
She is British at the moment. But any minute now she will be stateless and it is perfectly within our rights to get rid. She's useless to us, she has no information to share. And when is someone going to care even a little bit about all those severed heads that did not faze her.

Legally, we do not have to take her back. And I hope we won't. The resources that would be wasted on her could be used more fruitfully somewhere else.
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She is British at the moment. But any minute now she will be stateless and it is perfectly within our rights to get rid. She's useless to us, she has no information to share. And when is someone going to care even a little bit about all those severed heads that did not faze her.

Legally, we do not have to take her back. And I hope we won't. The resources that would be wasted on her could be used more fruitfully somewhere else.
Former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, Lord Carlile, told the BBC that if Begum has not gained a second citizenship of another country she will have to be allowed back to her homeland because under international law it is not possible for a person to be made ‘stateless’.


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She is British at the moment. But any minute now she will be stateless and it is perfectly within our rights to get rid. She's useless to us, she has no information to share. And when is someone going to care even a little bit about all those severed heads that did not faze her.

Legally, we do not have to take her back. And I hope we won't. The resources that would be wasted on her could be used more fruitfully somewhere else.


She won't be stateless as it's against the law for anyone to be stateless..if she is made stateless she could sue us.
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It’s self inflicted. I wouldn’t have much sympathy for someone suffering a hangover after deliberately drinking too much alcohol
If you were a mother of a 17yr old son you would be up on Sunday cooking him a hearty breakfast though.
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Apparently she will have to get herself to Turkey or Iraq for the UK to help as it’s too dangerous to have a consulate in Syria
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Read here about her Dad who wants her home !!
Obviously no go areas for the social services..urghhh..to think I felt sorry for that scumbag when I saw him crying on tv....but his daughter, well it's all making sense now..


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