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Tom4784 · 17-02-2019, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I have not got an agenda and people who don’t want her back have kids and plenty of empathy, but being pregnant is not a get of jail card

What do you this woman would do if a British family found themselves in her village when they had the upper hand, she would let her hilusband the father to her kids kill rape and torture that family.

This woman already let two kids die, and would not bat an eye lid as her husband killed the enemy that includes women and children.

That says so much about your sense of morality.

It's okay for these kids to die because of the hypothetical actions of their parents, in fact you seem glad about it in all honesty judging from your other posts.

We must be better than those we judge, we can't react to brutality with brutality and then pretend we're better.

GoldHeart · 17-02-2019, 12:58 AM

I feel sorry for her innocent unborn child , her excuse to come back to the UK is so the child can get proper healthcare. Soo many questions , could the child be taken off her if she IS allowed back ?, what happens next ? .

Also what if she tries to recruit other young girls and brain washes them , surely at 15 she knew it was wrong what she was doing by wanting to join ISIS . She's still a potential terrorist and would have to be watched if she comes back to the uk.

I find it bizarre and really unfair how decent hardworking people get deported over stupid reasons who haven't committed any serious crimes

, yet this potential dangerous person is allowed back into the country

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thesheriff443 · 17-02-2019, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

That says so much about your sense of morality.

It's okay for these kids to die because of the hypothetical actions of their parents, in fact you seem glad about it in all honesty judging from your other posts.

We must be better than those we judge, we can't react to brutality with brutality and then pretend we're better.

Innocent lives are lost every day to abortion that’s not my fault!, life is about choices.

This woman was a breeding machine, churning out kids to be filled with hate, she only wants to come back because Isis is being defeated.

Letting murders live amongst us don’t make you a better person.

thesheriff443 · 17-02-2019, 01:11 AM

As to hypothetical actions, are you saying Isis haven’t murdered innocent women an children?.

I live in the real world.

thesheriff443 · 17-02-2019, 01:23 AM

No matter how wrong you think my opinion is, it’s only an opinion and will make no difference to what happens to the woman and her unborn child in this case.

Tom4784 · 17-02-2019, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Innocent lives are lost every day to abortion that’s not my fault!, life is about choices.

This woman was a breeding machine, churning out kids to be filled with hate, she only wants to come back because Isis is being defeated.

Letting murders live amongst us don’t make you a better person.

If you think that aborting a bundle of cells is the same as living breathing children dying then that says it all really, not only are you blatantly wrong but you're ignorant of the biology surrounding pregnancy.

See, you're doing what you did before. You tried to make out that I had sympathy for the mother when I blatantly didn't and now you're trying to spin some sort of narrative in which I think the mother should be allowed to go free despite saying otherwise in my other posts.

I won't accept your spin and your attempts to rewrite what I've said in order to give yourself a leg to stand on in this conversation. I will highlight your tactics and drag you across the coals for it because it's a low tactic. Argue against what I'm actually saying and not what you've imagined I've said.

Children are children, they are not born with hate, it's thrust upon them. If there's a chance to save a child's life and take them away from a life of abuse and early death then we should take it. Let the mother face her crimes, lock her away and give the child a chance to live a normal life.

Demonising children and justifying their deaths and murder certainly doesn't make you a good person either.

Tom4784 · 17-02-2019, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

As to hypothetical actions, are you saying Isis haven’t murdered innocent women an children?.

I live in the real world.

Another example of what I just said.

Where have I said that Isis haven't killed innocent people? It's ****ing wrong of you to suggest that since you're basically making me out to be a terrorist sympathiser and you will apologise for that.

You brought up a hypothetical situation to justify the deaths of children by making out that the same would befall a British family in their situation, I responded by saying that you don't respond to brutality with brutality and then act like you're the better side. I never said anything about Isis as a whole. I shall be awaiting your apology.

thesheriff443 · 17-02-2019, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Another example of what I just said.

Where have I said that Isis haven't killed innocent people? It's ****ing wrong of you to suggest that since you're basically making me out to be a terrorist sympathiser and you will apologise for that.

You brought up a hypothetical situation to justify the deaths of children by making out that the same would befall a British family in their situation, I responded by saying that you don't respond to brutality with brutality and then act like you're the better side. I never said anything about Isis as a whole. I shall be awaiting your apology.

You are so full of righteousness, you will get no apology from me, one of us is full of anger and it’s not me.

thesheriff443 · 17-02-2019, 03:26 AM

Just to clarify, you want an apology from me for having a difference of opinion when you called me ignorant, lol you are taking the p1ss.

As to calling me ignorant about abortions, they can take place upto 24 weeks at which point their is a chance of survival, the earliest a baby as been born and survived is 21 weeks

The unborn baby in this case is being used as a get me back home card, nothing more.

thesheriff443 · 17-02-2019, 03:36 AM

The world is messed up, instead of killing the murderers and child rapist we lock them up for a few years then let them out with the strong possibility they will do the same again.

And this is supposed to make us better human beings.

Becs · 17-02-2019, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I feel sorry for her innocent unborn child , her excuse to come back to the UK is so the child can get proper healthcare. Soo many questions , could the child be taken off her if she IS allowed back ?, what happens next ? .

Also what if she tries to recruit other young girls and brain washes them , surely at 15 she knew it was wrong what she was doing by wanting to join ISIS . She's still a potential terrorist and would have to be watched if she comes back to the uk.

I find it bizarre and really unfair how decent hardworking people get deported over stupid reasons who haven't committed any serious crimes

, yet this potential dangerous person is allowed back into the country

.

The family are trying the ‘she has Stockholm Syndrome’ get out clause now. Pathetic. Maybe they should take some responsibility for their bad/criminal parenting skills instead as it seems she is the product of their own warped ideologies. We are just allowing the disease of such hate to spread within us whilst we sit back and discuss our morality. If we aren’t careful we will go down in history as the masters of our own demise in our arrogance and stupidity.

MTVN · 17-02-2019, 09:14 AM

Tom4784 · 17-02-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Just to clarify, you want an apology from me for having a difference of opinion when you called me ignorant, lol you are taking the p1ss.

As to calling me ignorant about abortions, they can take place upto 24 weeks at which point their is a chance of survival, the earliest a baby as been born and survived is 21 weeks

The unborn baby in this case is being used as a get me back home card, nothing more.

Is twisting facts into lies all you are capable of doing? Do you choose not to acknowledge things that do not suit your agenda? It's clear as day in the post you quoted that I don't want an apology for a difference of opinion but for the fact you are taking my views which are very simple, that my concern lies with the kids, and you're making me out to be a terrorist sympathiser.

It's a pathetic thing to do and I will call it out for what it is. This is not about a difference of opinion, this is about you making me out to be a terrorist sympathiser and trying to frame what I'm saying as me wanting this woman to be free which has never been the case. My concern with this story has always been the children and I said multiple times that I want the mother to be locked up.

Late term abortions are a thing yes but if you are trying to make out that they are common then you are straight up lying, most abortions take place within the first 12 weeks were babies are nothing more than cells, to compare that to a living breathing child is ignorant. To make out that late term abortions are more common then they actually are is ignorant. If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it's often a duck.

Tom4784 · 17-02-2019, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The world is messed up, instead of killing the murderers and child rapist we lock them up for a few years then let them out with the strong possibility they will do the same again.

And this is supposed to make us better human beings.

And responding to brutality with more brutality makes us better? To take glee in the death of children in the guise of treating them like the enemy when their only crime is being born in the wrong place makes us good?

I'd rather be called self righteous and know that my sense of morality is on point then be so twisted out of shape to believe that fighting fire with fire is the right thing to do.