[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

These are the same 'victims' that stood up for him in court testifying he had not touched them,and out they come years after his death and say the opposite, sorry I don't believe a word of it.There has been a witch hunt against him for years and seems there still is.

Exactly

I think it's utter BS ,if it's true why do they wait 10 years after his death to basically go back on their word. They lied on oath then in court ?!! .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Exactly

I think it's utter BS ,if it's true why do they wait 10 years after his death to basically go back on their word. They lied on oath then in court ?!! .

Why did people come out about Saville and Ted Heath after death ? the same will happen with Cliff

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Why did people come out about Saville and Ted Heath after death ? the same will happen with Cliff

Difference is though Chuff these two had previously stood up in court and under oath defended MJ and said he never ever touched them, they were 20 at the time , something stinks about all this. So they lied if what they are saying we are supposed to believe now, so why should I believe them now, and I don't ( love you too , (lol)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Difference is though Chuff these two had previously stood up in court and under oath defended MJ and said he never ever touched them, they were 20 at the time , something stinks about all this. So they lied if what they are saying we are supposed to believe now, so why should I believe them now, and I don't ( love you too , (lol)

Only Wade Robson testified for him when he was in his early 20's, James refused and says that Michael was pretty angry about that. Wade Robson goes into plenty of detail as to why he supported him again; he still had affection for him, they were still friends, and at first he didn't want to be involved but Michael's lawyer talked to him and said something along the lines of "can you imagine what would happen to someone like Michael in prison". Other than that, they both testified on his behalf when they were still kids and they were still deeply involved with him.

The only reason people have a problem understanding this is because there's this idea that abuse victims must hate their abuser and want them to suffer but the very sad truth is that usually, the affection they felt for that person when they were "in a relationship" with them NEVER fully goes away. They were both deeply in love with him, while he was abusing them. Hard as that is to comprehend.

If you actually watch the documentary, it's fairly clear that for James that has started to twist into hatred now, but Wade still to this day clearly has a lot of affection for and good memories of MJ.

The misconception is that to be a child abuser he must have secretly been some evil cackling goblin. It seems like he was generous, fun, loving, attentive and affectionate... but still a paedophile.