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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just don't know that "they can just have a trans league" is really discussing the issue though? It feels dismissive to me, as admittedly an outside observer who isn't affected by either "side" of this. I'm not for a second arguing that plenty of trans activists aren't equally dismissive of women's concerns, but one doesn't excuse the other.

It seems like there should be plenty of scope for level-headed, reasonable discussion of the actual issues but no one seems willing to engage, and I doubt anyone is going to be happy until something changes.

How can you have a discussion without someone to discuss it with though....this is the issue.

BIB - Totally wrong, transwomen in sport are unwilling to engage unless you agree with them on it. Rachel McKinnon for example (the trans cyclist who Martina Navratoliva had the initial back and forth with) refused to debate the issue on her recent radio appearance so the radio station canceled the opposing debater