[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just wonder where the "pivot point" is. I mean, there's no physical evidence against Saville either but admittedly there are far more accusors and no one has trouble believing that he's guilty. But how many would be "enough" for Jackson? 10? 20? 50? I sort of feel like a hundred people could come forward with claims and every single one would be dubbed "lies for money".

I wonder if McCauley Culkin came out and said actually MJ did abuse me what people would say? I suspect that it would be because he was trying to raise his profile, get money etc.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wonder if McCauley Culkin came out and said actually MJ did abuse me what people would say? I suspect that it would be because he was trying to raise his profile, get money etc.

"His career has been dead for years, he's an addict and addicts lie, he probably spent all of his own money on drugs, he's probably in debt, he's recovered lately and tried to restart his career but failed, now after money". You can write it without it happening

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"His career has been dead for years, he's an addict and addicts lie, he probably spent all of his own money on drugs, he's probably in debt, he's recovered lately and tried to restart his career but failed, now after money". You can write it without it happening

Don't forget "well, he said the opposite in court under oath so he's a proved liar ".....

The rule is people are only credible if they're on the "right" side of the fence

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"His career has been dead for years, he's an addict and addicts lie, he probably spent all of his own money on drugs, he's probably in debt, he's recovered lately and tried to restart his career but failed, now after money". You can write it without it happening

Everyone lies at some point not just addicts

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Everyone lies at some point not just addicts

I know that and a lot of addicts are also extremely, painfully honest in my experience. I'm just thinking of examples of what people would say to discredit him, because they would definitely try to, and his drug problem would be an easy target (much like Wade Robson's bad relationships).

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"His career has been dead for years, he's an addict and addicts lie, he probably spent all of his own money on drugs, he's probably in debt, he's recovered lately and tried to restart his career but failed, now after money". You can write it without it happening

This is just what I was going to post, he must go down in history as one of the most untrustworthy witness ever, as you say he was on every drug known to man, his career was in tatters ,he got his palm crossed with $$ and took them, MJ would have told him to name his price as he was a well known face

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"His career has been dead for years, he's an addict and addicts lie, he probably spent all of his own money on drugs, he's probably in debt, he's recovered lately and tried to restart his career but failed, now after money". You can write it without it happening

Yup. Spot on. Regardless of who comes out, how many or whatever, its ALWAYS just going to be lies for money/attention.

[chuff me dizzy]

I see professional parasite Andre has jumped on the bandwagon today as a "near miss "

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/peter-andr...QQ-mzrxo20Jk7g

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I see professional parasite Andre has jumped on the bandwagon today as a "near miss "

Apparently he came second in the dance competition that Wade Robson won? Is that the one he won when he was 5 where they initially said he could dance but wouldn't be eligible to win?

Peter Andre: "I think the important thing to learn from this documentary is that I WOZ ROBBED! He wasn't even supposed to be in the contest!"

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Apparently he came second in the dance competition that Wade Robson won? Is that the one he won when he was 5 where they initially said he could dance but wouldn't be eligible to win?

Peter Andre: "I think the important thing to learn from this documentary is that I WOZ ROBBED! He wasn't even supposed to be in the contest!"

Everything Andre says and does boils my blood