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10-03-2019, 02:27 PM | #26 | ||
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I mean... these could literally be quotes from the Jackson thread. I even asked Livia outright if she would have said the same about Saville and she was uncharacteristically dismissive of the question. It turns out that's because she literally did say exactly the same things about Saville almost word-for-word. Consistent opinions at least, I suppose. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 10-03-2019 at 02:29 PM. |
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10-03-2019, 02:28 PM | #27 | |||
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Savilles case is nothing like the MJ case, loads of people complained and the police and the BBC turned a blind eye, he was never investigated in life never mind by the FBI
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10-03-2019, 02:29 PM | #28 | ||
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Yes and yet people (mostly the same people) were still casting doubt on it. The thread is like a mirror image, I don't see how that can be denied, it's right there to read.
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10-03-2019, 02:30 PM | #29 | ||
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He wants laws to prevent this kind of thing being allowed full stop. If someone has not even been arrested or charged with anything they shouldn't have their name and reputation trashed. |
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10-03-2019, 02:39 PM | #30 | ||
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I don't really remember. I thought Yewtree investigations led them to investigating him for whatever purpose. I didn't realise someone actually accused him. |
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10-03-2019, 02:40 PM | #31 | ||
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10-03-2019, 02:42 PM | #32 | ||
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10-03-2019, 02:42 PM | #33 | ||
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Multiple accusers but no physical evidence found and so the claims have (again) been dismissed as "definitely false" rather than "not proven" by many people.
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10-03-2019, 02:48 PM | #34 | ||
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I'm not saying that people should think "Well Saville was guilty so Jackson must be guilty too!", that would be a false logic, too... I just find it odd that people aren't open to the thought though "Oh hmmmm I said all of this about Saville and I was wrong, so maybe I should keep a more open mind about this one". I find it strange that people can be "so sure", wrong, and then "so sure" again. |
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10-03-2019, 02:49 PM | #35 | |||
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Yes there were two accusers
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10-03-2019, 02:53 PM | #36 | ||
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10-03-2019, 03:01 PM | #37 | ||
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10-03-2019, 03:02 PM | #38 | ||
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True but all I can really say is that in my opinion, I think it's highly likely that MJ's contact with children was not "totally innocent" based on a LOT of factors. And I guess the pertinent point is, IF some evidence arises that shows that's incorrect - let's say they suddenly admit to lying or something like that - I would be far less sure if something similar was to come up in future. I find it strange that people can know that they were wrong once but still be AS SURE in another very similar situation.
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Wasn't it a teenage boy Marsh ? Oh I'm not sure now,better get investigating
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10-03-2019, 03:04 PM | #40 | ||
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I'm sure I know what I'm saying better than you do, 2S
I'm saying that people were definitely wrong when they insisted that Saville's accusers were lying for money, so they surely should consider that they may be wrong again in saying the same about Jackson's accusers. |
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10-03-2019, 03:14 PM | #43 | ||
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You see we can play that game both ways. So it doesn't help you going to a different thread and jumping at people. These are different cases, full stop, and should be treated separately and independently. |
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10-03-2019, 03:14 PM | #44 | |||
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It was dodgy parenting because it was a dodgy situation
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10-03-2019, 03:18 PM | #45 | ||
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10-03-2019, 03:31 PM | #46 | |||
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Yes it's dodgy to leave your child with a man who likes to sleep with young boys I agree because you should wonder why a grown man wants to sleep with young boys
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10-03-2019, 03:33 PM | #47 | ||
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But you can't say it's dodgy to leave your child because the situation is dodgy. It's dodgy full stop. Even taking abuse out of the equation they sold their kids to Hollywood for their own selfish materialistic reasons.
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10-03-2019, 03:36 PM | #48 | |||
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I am saying both
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10-03-2019, 04:37 PM | #49 | |||
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If they don't name them then they should be put on house arrest until trial or they agree to having their name released and are free ro move around until trial.
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