[Vicky.]

Not sure if this ones been in the news or not. First I have heard of it with this thread. Though there are many examples of similar stories.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Except, as usual, noone is using individual cases to claim an entire population is potentially dangerous, though its claimed each time that when you point out such a case it means you are using that against all transpeople. Acknowledging that these people (well, abusive men) exist (and they are not as few as you would think it seems) and that loopholes make it easier for pervs like Balldemort..does not mean you are saying all trans people are pervs like Balldemort.

We know that Not All Men Are Like That too.

And yet, the unrelated examples come out in force every time there's a thread even vaguely related to trans issues. Hmmm. And a LOT of protestations if it's pointed out; honestly it's the biggest backlash you'll get on this forum. A sensitive issue, clearly, though people are hesitant to admit it, and that says plenty.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Oh, and its not transgender people that are the main issue, as usual. Its abusive controlling narcissistic males who have clung onto the coattails of a genuine cause for dear life, and now appear to be controlling it that are the issue. How anyone cannot see that transactivism as it stands today (not genuine transactivism..but how it is now) is nothing more than a MRA movement, I will never understand.

Yes I imagine it probably seems so if you immerse yourself in social media / forum melting pots full of confirmation bias and frenzied hysteria.

[Oliver_W]

I don't agree with misgendering but this is one of my favourite videos from this year

Youtube video

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't agree with misgendering

Yet you refer to Kyra on BBCAN as “she” every chance you get

[Lostie!]

I thing lodging a complaint against the first guy when she didn't even bother to correct him was unfair. He could have thought she was a cross dresser. Mistakes happen, and instantly wanting people punished for them isn't the best way to educate. With the second guy, if he saw her details then it should have been clear so fair enough on that one. Although I'm also tired of this culture of demanding compensation that's going on nowadays.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Yet you refer to Kyra on BBCAN as “she” every chance you get

If Kyra was a transman, I'd say he, because men exist; with the transwoman in this thread, I say she, because women exist. But nonbinary is just nonsense. If I remember to use preferred pronouns for enbys I will though.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I thing lodging a complaint against the first guy when she didn't even bother to correct him was unfair. He could have thought she was a cross dresser. Mistakes happen, and instantly wanting people punished for them isn't the best way to educate. With the second guy, if he saw her details then it should have been clear so fair enough on that one. Although I'm also tired of this culture of demanding compensation that's going on nowadays.

Exactly it's getting ridiculous now .

And it can be confusing as like you say some people are just cross dressers

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

And yet, the unrelated examples come out in force every time there's a thread even vaguely related to trans issues. Hmmm. And a LOT of protestations if it's pointed out; honestly it's the biggest backlash you'll get on this forum. A sensitive issue, clearly, though people are hesitant to admit it, and that says plenty.



Yes I imagine it probably seems so if you immerse yourself in social media / forum melting pots full of confirmation bias and frenzied hysteria.

Oh hysteria

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh hysteria

It's not a word I particularly like because of the etymology but honestly if you've ever been on a "more colourful" Mumsnet thread, I don't think there's any other applicable word. Pitchforks and paranoia.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Lmfao I have never heard someone call a woman "sir"

It's not a very common thing but it does happen nowadays, admittedly more in work environments though compared to this case which is more strange if this woman is telling the truth on what the worker said to her.

It's gonna be one of those cases where a misunderstanding has happened and neither side will back down, I doubt that the woman is deliberately lying, and I doubt that the business would want to lose business by being deliberately rude to a customer.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't it actually more common nowadays for women to be called sir? I'm genuinely curious to see if this will really go anywhere for her considering the terminology that was used does get used for born women nowadays too.

wut

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't agree with misgendering but this is one of my favourite videos from this year

Youtube video

More Touchy in the USA

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

wut

Maybe I've watched too much American Sci-Fi shows where that dialogue gets used a lot.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Maybe I've watched too much American Sci-Fi shows where that dialogue gets used a lot.

I think because it's probably used in the armed forces, which things like Star Trek copy with their official "officer" characters.

Don't thing women being called "sir" has ever been a social thing.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I think because it's probably used in the armed forces, which things like Star Trek copy with their official "officer" characters.

Don't thing women being called "sir" has ever been a social thing.

Yeah that does make sense.

I didn't realise that shows like Star Trek and Galactica had warped my world view so much.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Yeah that does make sense.

I didn't realise that shows like Star Trek and Galactica had warped my world view so much.

I missed the episode where Kathryn Janeway yelled IT'S MA'AM! and smashed up the Voyager's bridge.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I missed the episode where Kathryn Janeway yelled IT'S MA'AM! and smashed up the Voyager's bridge.

I missed the second half because that scene was so sexy.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

She doesn't just want an apology, she wants £2500 compensation. That's completely disproportionate.

run her her check! quickly @southernRail

[Tony Montana]

Lmfao Mock, you deleted your post, but you still quoted it and it’s still there

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

run her her check! quickly @southernRail

Nah, it's not really warranted. I don't fault her for wanting free money btw, but she shouldn't actually get it.

[Marsh.]

Winner of RuPaul's Drag Race UK 1?

[user104658]

I mean to be fair, you'd be lucky to get a return from Manchester to London Euston for £2500.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

Lmfao Mock, you deleted your post, but you still quoted it and it’s still there

I'm gonna have to delete that post too.

It's just I'm not comfortable ripping into a group of people that already get a lot of stick as it is, even if I do find it strange it doesn't personally harm me so I probably shouldn't help put the knife in.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm gonna have to delete that post too.



It's just I'm not comfortable ripping into a group of people that already get a lot of stick as it is, even if I do find it strange it doesn't personally harm me so I probably shouldn't help put the knife in.

It's OK, it's in vogue to hate on gender related issues.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Youtube video

Should not have gone to specs avers