[Shaun]

That's the most frustrating thing about this whole debacle: the argument that we have been powerless and coerced into following this weird, unelected bunch of foreigners, without any control over the voting processes. Perhaps if we'd actually cared more about our MEP elections (I can name roughly 20 people in my life who voted in the referendum that never voted for an MEP) we wouldn't be in this mess. The whole narrative of "EU = making decisions against our will" is just bizarre and I wonder how long before it extends into our own Parliament.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

That's the most frustrating thing about this whole debacle: the argument that we have been powerless and coerced into following this weird, unelected bunch of foreigners, without any control over the voting processes. Perhaps if we'd actually cared more about our MEP elections (I can name roughly 20 people in my life who voted in the referendum that never voted for an MEP) we wouldn't be in this mess. The whole narrative of "EU = making decisions against our will" is just bizarre and I wonder how long before it extends into our own Parliament.

!!!!

It’s embarassing, people have been lied to constantly, led to believe a load of nonsense that isn’t true and now we’re in this mess because of it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Shaun

That's the most frustrating thing about this whole debacle: the argument that we have been powerless and coerced into following this weird, unelected bunch of foreigners, without any control over the voting processes. Perhaps if we'd actually cared more about our MEP elections (I can name roughly 20 people in my life who voted in the referendum that never voted for an MEP) we wouldn't be in this mess. The whole narrative of "EU = making decisions against our will" is just bizarre and I wonder how long before it extends into our own Parliament.

It's true, a lot of the ill feeling that has lead to Brexit is based on us being "ineffective" and "not having any sway" in Europe and thus feeling controlled and trapped.

What if we've simply been electing weak, ineffective people into the European Parliament and if we'd had a stronger presence in the first place, we would never have ended up in this position? Even looking at it objectively, the UK was positioned to be the keystone of the European Union in terms of global reach and especially in terms of transatlantic relations. Did we just misunderstand and neglect that opportunity thanks to weak representation?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

That's the most frustrating thing about this whole debacle: the argument that we have been powerless and coerced into following this weird, unelected bunch of foreigners, without any control over the voting processes. Perhaps if we'd actually cared more about our MEP elections (I can name roughly 20 people in my life who voted in the referendum that never voted for an MEP) we wouldn't be in this mess. The whole narrative of "EU = making decisions against our will" is just bizarre and I wonder how long before it extends into our own Parliament.

Indeed. Its genuinely ridiculous.