[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Is it not possible to point out that a concern is being expressed in an aggressive, sometimes needlessly offensive way, loaded down with some baseless assumptions, whilst still taking the core concern seriously? If I acknowledge that there's an issue, do I have to accept the unpleasant packaging of that concern? I'd say not, personally. Like I said, using sports as an example again, I'm in full agreement that women's sports need to be protected from potential problems but I'm not in support of the arguably transphobic rhetoric that often surrounds that message. I can't really say it any more clearly than that, I guess.

Of course, however you only ever see the bad side in womens concerns, never seen you say a word about the bad side in how some trans people express their views sometimes ( (not all obviously) (the cyclist who took Martina Navratolva(sp) to task is a very good example of that.)

Anyway, I'm actually going to leave it here with you TS because we've really covered this ground numerous times and clearly we're not making any new ground on it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course, however you only ever see the bad side in womens concerns, never seen you say a word about the bad side in how some trans people express their views sometimes

I can only promise that if there was a transwoman on here doing that, I am confident that I would . But there isn't.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can only promise that if there was a transwoman on here doing that, I am confident that I would . But there isn't.

mumsnet isn't a member here either Nice try though. Right I'm really bowing out now.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

mumsnet isn't a member here either Nice try though. Right I'm really bowing out now.

Yes but I did say (at great personal risk )

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

threads on here on trans issues CAN and HAVE gone the same way