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And they are now an extinct house. Only bastards.



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Targaryen: now Aegon/Jon

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I definitely think that the White Walkers will be dealt with in the next two episodes or so. Cersei bringing in the Golden Company and bunkering down in Kings' Landing and waiting for the Night King to fall before she tries to wipe out the north in the aftermath.

I think we'd have seen King's Landing fall and/or Cersei become the Night Queen in Episode 1 if the White Walkers were going to be the big bad.
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I don’t see them being dealt with in just a few eps... I feel like the build up of the white walkers, since literally the first ep means they will be the main fight until the end.
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The White Walkers aren't the main story, the succession to the throne is.

So ep. 2 will be the preparation for battle, 3 is the big battle, 4 is the aftermath, 5 is the North vs. South battle and 6 wraps it all up with who's still alive, who pairs up with who, and who's left to claim the throne (and some weird stuff from Bran).
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I don't really see a massive army of undead just being dealt with in two episodes, frankly. But then to have a "nobody takes the throne because there is no throne", or "the Night King takes the throne" ending would also be rather disappointing.
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I mean... The two options are that the White Walkers are defeated at Winterfell in episodes 3/4, OR Winterfell and The North fall in those episodes and if its the latter then I don't really know what the final two episodes would be about. Cersei vs White Walkers? Does anyone even want to see that?

It only really makes sense if several major players are still going until the end, and that requires victory at Winterfell surely...
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i liked the first ep, that tension between sansa, daenerys

Sansa: what do dragons eat, anyway

Dany: whatever they want

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For me there are a couple of possibilities. Either Bran takes the Night King out with some mind tricks ... remember the Night King touched Bran when he was in that mode, so the other way round should be possible too, or Arya takes out the Night King with little fingers dagger.

I think with the Night King gone, all his minions will shatter and turn to dust in 1 instant ..... job done. So there doesn't need to be an almighty battle, it can just be 1 single blow. The other alternative is that Danny takes him out with her dragons ... it has to be something like that
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For me there are a couple of possibilities. Either Bran takes the Night King out with some mind tricks ... remember the Night King touched Bran when he was in that mode, so the other way round should be possible too, or Arya takes out the Night King with little fingers dagger.

I think with the Night King gone, all his minions will shatter and turn to dust in 1 instant ..... job done. So there doesn't need to be an almighty battle, it can just be 1 single blow. The other alternative is that Danny takes him out with her dragons ... it has to be something like that
My theory is that Jon and the Night King go Royal Rumble and have a prolonged fight but that Jon ultimately loses and is about to be killed by the Night King, and Dany is making her way to them and you think it'll be her that saves him, only for Arya (who has been stealthing her way around the battle taking out underlings) to pop up out of nowhere behind the Night King and stab him in the head... reminding Jon that it's the Starks who really have his back. That would be pretty epic

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Who do we think will get the big "WTF " death like Oberyn, for example?
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My theory is that Jon and the Night King go Royal Rumble and have a prolonged fight but that Jon ultimately loses and is about to be killed by the Night King, and Dany is making her way to them and you think it'll be her that saves him, only for Arya (who has been stealthing her way around the battle taking out underlings) to pop up out of nowhere behind the Night King and stab him in the head... reminding Jon that it's the Starks who really have his back. That would be pretty epic
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Those are the only ones that can do the deed .... would be funny if Sam did it
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Here is a point of continuity ......

Sam keeps saying that people should be reading books to find out how the Night King was defeated last time .... but surely Bran would know this?
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I don't really see a massive army of undead just being dealt with in two episodes, frankly. But then to have a "nobody takes the throne because there is no throne", or "the Night King takes the throne" ending would also be rather disappointing.
Same, imo it’s more likely that they lose the battle of winterfell and have to retreat, you can see in the original trailer that Jon and Dany are back at Dragonstone so it’s a case of who survives with them.

I think the last 3 eps will be almost a 3 way war

Also don’t think the night king wants/will end up on throne, there wouldn’t be a kingdom to rule if he won, he wants something, it’s just a case of what
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Well, I have no doubt Dany is going to be pregnant, Jon and hers conversation about how she can't have children seemed to be foreshadowing that imo. Maybe their baby will end up being the Prince that was promised
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Maybe their baby ends up a sacrifice to the night king seeing as he was robbed of baby Sam when Gilly left
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yes dany's baby, has potential to be ''the prince that was promised''

a possible Night Prince, son to the night king
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OK yeah, have watched it now and am so let down. I suspect the coming episodes will be better, but this one..was so ****ing boring. Expecting it to be 'top 5 of all time' was silly of me, reviews tend to be bollocks. Its not even the best season opening, as Arya massacring the Freys takes that crown for me tbh
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Also I don't really get how you can win against an army of dead in battle, because basically, everyone they kill will rise and be on their side now? Unless if you kill the main dude, the rest all die too or something.
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OK yeah, have watched it now and am so let down. I suspect the coming episodes will be better, but this one..was so ****ing boring. Expecting it to be 'top 5 of all time' was silly of me, reviews tend to be bollocks. Its not even the best season opening, as Arya massacring the Freys takes that crown for me tbh
this first episode was nice enough, all remaining starks reunited, and also arya seeing the hound, gendry again, sansa - tyrion


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Idk if I should bother making this its own thread, but how would you lot rank the seasons?
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Not like, in a Melisandre kind of way, but the same way Crastor handed them over

Something stopped them last time and it wasn’t because they lost the war, a deal was probably struck and it’s since been broken but people don’t even realize that
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