[Nicky91]

sooo the night king's armada consists out of

2 or 3 Giants, 1 dragon, many many soldiers commanded by their own generals

basically everything what has died beyond the wall, is part of that army of the dead now

[Daniel.]

4 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 5

Honestly 2 is really underrated by reddit etc

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Who do we think will get the big "WTF " death like Oberyn, for example?

I think that Daenerys will get killed at the end in a shocking manner, I've been thinking it since season 2 when I still liked her character so it's not wish fulfillment on my part.

Anyway on the episode I'll start with the positives.

1. I really liked the scene with the kid at the end of the episode, the first time I think that GOT in it's entire run so far had me jump so the episode will stick out in a positive way for being a “first” to achieve a certain goal on the show.

2. Theon's couple of scenes with Olenna (I hope I've got her name right) were decent. Just sadly there wasn't enough of them.

3. Cersei looks like she's building up a revolting but interesting dynamic with that guy that wants an heir to the throne. I still think that Cersei is past her best years imo, but this could be her best season in awhile.

4. I'm interested in how Jaime will interact with Bran this season.


However I didn't really like the episode very much overall and if it wasn't the last season I'd be tuning out, a classic case of a programme becoming too popular and it now thinks that it can write any old crap it wants, and sadly going by the ratings keep going up they're right.

I miss the days when the show had consistently good writing for it's characters (even if you personally didn't like an individual character) they were actually given screentime and storylines and they had a direction. Now it's all about Jon Snow and all of the fan fiction bullcrap that he keeps getting and nobody else is getting a look in the episodes properly nowadays.

And I'm sorry but wtf! was that waterfall scene between Jon and Daenerys? Ninastar was definitely right in saying that I would cringe. It has to be one of the most cringy romance scenes to have ever existed away from a show that's not a Soap Opera or isn't called TWD or Gotham.

But in the next few episodes I do want to see more on the cardboard cutouts that used to get storylines in the first 5 seasons and just The Jon Snow Show.

[Niamh.]

Yarra is Theons sister Mock, Olenna was the Queen of Thorns who poisoned Joffery

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yarra is Theons sister Mock, Olenna was the Queen of Thorns who poisoned Joffery

Olenna was the best character for me

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Idk if I should bother making this its own thread, but how would you lot rank the seasons?

1. Season 3 & 4 (I'm always torn on which season is better out of these two)
3. Season 1
4. Season 2
5. Season 6
6. Season 7
7. Season 5 (just because nothing really happened in that season)

Although I'm suspecting that season 8 will go at the bottom by the end of the season.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Olenna was the best character for me

She was pretty good, I liked her confession before dying aswell

[bots]

i think people have hyped themselves into thinking GoT series 8 will be the best thing ever on TV and with time running out and the converging story lines, it has to be a different show to that of the first few seasons. I'm still thoroughly enjoying it, i don't see the point in criticising this or that, just enjoy the ride

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

1. Season 3 & 4 (I'm always torn on which season is better out of these two)
3. Season 1
4. Season 2
5. Season 6
6. Season 7
7. Season 5 (just because nothing really happened in that season)

Although I'm suspecting that season 8 will go at the bottom by the end of the season.

I think it will go to the top, SO much is going to happen

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Aw I really liked it Vicky, like Nicky said, the reunions were nice and it was always only going to be a set up the season type episode anyway, what else could the first episode be really?

There could have been more bloody happening

Maybe I expect too much of it because it has been fantastic in the past.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

I think it will go to the top, SO much is going to happen

It all depends on if you can handle the whole show revolving around Jon Snow imo.

If you can do that then great, but for me I can tell that this is gonna be a horrible season for me as he dominated screentime more than he usually does in that first episode, truly horrible stuff.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

There could have been more bloody happening

Maybe I expect too much of it because it has been fantastic in the past.

It may have helped that I watched the last episode of S7 just before and that was really exciting so it felt like one episode maybe. I think for me though because I'd read all the books and it felt like the characters were never going to be reunited, especially the Stark kids, that finally happening was really satisfying, especially Arya and Jon

[Vicky.]

I hate all the focus on Jon/Danaerys. The 'romance' storylines alwasys piss me off.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It all depends on if you can handle the whole show revolving around Jon Snow imo.

If you can do that then great, but for me I can tell that this is gonna be a horrible season for me as he dominated screentime more than he usually does in that first episode, truly horrible stuff.

He's really not that bad a character

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It all depends on if you can handle the whole show revolving around Jon Snow imo.

If you can do that then great, but for me I can tell that this is gonna be a horrible season for me as he dominated screentime more than he usually does in that first episode, truly horrible stuff.

He was always going to be one of the main, if not the main one though Mock. I mean the books are literally named after him "A Song of Ice and Fire" Stark/targaryen

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yarra is Theons sister Mock, Olenna was the Queen of Thorns who poisoned Joffery

I just realised that.

My bad.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It may have helped that I watched the last episode of S7 just before and that was really exciting so it felt like one episode maybe. I think for me though because I'd read all the books and it felt like the characters were never going to be reunited, especially the Stark kids, that finally happening was really satisfying, especially Arya and Jon

the look between Jamie and bran took all of 30 seconds .... but it was a great moment and one that only means anything when all the previous series have soaked in.

I also thought the throw back at the beginning of the episode to the kings arrival in the first episode of series 1 complete with exactly the same music was a great piece of TV

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the look between Jamie and bran took all of 30 seconds .... but it was a great moment and one that only means anything when all the previous series have soaked in.

I also thought the throw back at the beginning of the episode to the kings arrival in the first episode of series 1 complete with exactly the same music was a great piece of TV

Oh I know! I'd almost forgotten that it was jaime who did that to Bran, his character had taken such a turn from who he was in the first season. That's what's cool though that here they all are back where they started and all that's happened in between

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

He's really not that bad a character

He is so boring and he has been a screenhog over the last few seasons imo which I don't like to see any character becoming a screenhog, especially on a show that used to pride itself on being an ensemble like GOT.

And as Vicky said, the romance stuff between him and Daenerys is terrible imo.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

There could have been more bloody happening

Maybe I expect too much of it because it has been fantastic in the past.

But what else could have happened?

I’ve seen a lot of people say the same thing, but if a lot of the stuff that happened in this episode didn’t happen (the reunions, the discussions re houses/feeding everyone etc) people would have complained that it wasn’t realistic and that stuff was being rushed

It seems like they can’t win

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He was always going to be one of the main, if not the main one though Mock. I mean the books are literally named after him "A Song of Ice and Fire" Stark/targaryen

I get that.

But go back to the first 5 seasons and he didn't have as much screentime compared to what he gets nowadays, it's annoying, especially if your favourite is someone like Tyrion who has been put to the sidelines because of the over focus on Jon Snow.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get that.

But go back to the first 5 seasons and he didn't have as much screentime compared to what he gets nowadays, it's annoying, especially if your favourite is someone like Tyrion who has been put to the sidelines because of the over focus on Jon Snow.

There were more characters and more stories in the earlier seasons, plus the dead weren’t as much of a threat as they are now.

Can’t complain after one episode that someone is hogging all the screen time when there’s so few characters left and Jon is clearly a prominent player in stopping the dead

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get that.

But go back to the first 5 seasons and he didn't have as much screentime compared to what he gets nowadays, it's annoying, especially if your favourite is someone like Tyrion who has been put to the sidelines because of the over focus on Jon Snow.

Because it wasn't his time to come into the spotlight yet. Just like Bran was sidelined for most of the Seasons despite GRRM saying he's one of the most important characters in it, the end is where they're likely to shine, I think Tyrions highlights have come and gone already, he was more important earlier on but now it's the real main people who will finish it off....imo, that's always the way it seemed to be heading

[Daniel.]

Jon has always been a pretty huge character though? I would say he was the most central to season 1, Ned aside

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

But what else could have happened?

I’ve seen a lot of people say the same thing, but if a lot of the stuff that happened in this episode didn’t happen (the reunions, the discussions re houses/feeding everyone etc) people would have complained that it wasn’t realistic and that stuff was being rushed

It seems like they can’t win

Maybe..have already said I think I expect too much given the other episodes have pretty much all been great. I found this one a bit..flat.