[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If anything she’s shamed herself, not her kids

Well, that's her prerogative, I guess. She chose to go public, if the story wasn't in the news then none of us would be talking about it.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, that's her prerogative, I guess. She chose to go public, if the story wasn't in the news then none of us would be talking about it.

Definitely, there’s no issue from my end with people calling her a bad mother etc, I have an issue with a school that’s supposed to take care of the kids in their care refusing a meal on the basis of a disagreement with a parent

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Definitely, there’s no issue from my end with people calling her a bad mother etc, I have an issue with a school that’s supposed to take care of the kids in their care refusing a meal on the basis of a disagreement with a parent

They did feed them. Even the mother says they did. If they had been refused anything to eat, then I'd be with you.

Schools are there for teaching kids, they're not a charity. How many times have you heard about teachers taking bread and stuff in because kids come in to school having had no breakfast? And none of us know the whole story, this woman may be a serial non-payer. What she did was sent her kids, knowing she owed the money, hoping for the school to provide stuff for free. Well, they did. Bread and butter.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Livia

They did feed them. Even the mother says they did. If they had been refused anything to eat, then I'd be with you.

Schools are there for teaching kids, they're not a charity. How many times have you heard about teachers taking bread and stuff in because kids come in to school having had no breakfast? And none of us know the whole story, this woman may be a serial non-payer. What she did was sent her kids, knowing she owed the money, hoping for the school to provide stuff for free. Well, they did. Bread and butter.

Bread and butter is better than nothing, they didn't have to give them that but they did. If they kept giving free meals out everytime a parent doesn't pay then loads of people would be doing it as you said they are not a charity.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Bread and butter is better than nothing, they didn't have to give them that but they did. If they kept giving free meals out everytime a parent doesn't pay then loads of people would be doing it as you said they are not a charity.

...they did actually Luke...have to give them something, there would have been very serious questions to answer had they given them nothing...they give them the minimum really...and would have thrown surplus food out because there is always an error margin...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...they did actually Luke...have to give them something, there would have been very serious questions to answer had they given them nothing...they give them the minimum really...and would have thrown surplus food out because there is always an error margin...

We don't know that, Ammi.

You don't think the mother has any responsibility in this?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Livia

We don't know that, Ammi.

You don't think the mother has any responsibility in this?

..but we do know that though because every single school day children make errors in what lunches they are having...packed or hot meal..?...so an allowance has to be made for that...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...they did actually Luke...have to give them something, there would have been very serious questions to answer had they given them nothing...they give them the minimum really...and would have thrown surplus food out because there is always an error margin...

Sorry should have read your next post to see where you are coming from. This is not entirely true surely. It might be, but the way my kids school does it is meals are actually prepared elsewhere, then brought in and given as made, so its not like it was when I was at school when there were dinner ladies say, giving an extra scoop of mash or whatever. Its literally like an airplane meal type deal.

And an error margin, might also have to sustain other kids whos parents have 'forgot' dinner money for a few days. Those kids might well have got there first. Its unfair to just assume the school is throwing meals away to spite kids, when theres not really any reason for them to do that? Wouldn't change the policy of bread and butter and fruit as a minimum, but would only be able to get actual meals if they were going spare., which I would think they usually aren't

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Sorry should have read your next post to see where you are coming from. This is not entirely true surely. It might be, but the way my kids school does it is meals are actually prepared elsewhere, then brought in and given as made, so its not like it was when I was at school when there were dinner ladies say, giving an extra scoop of mash or whatever. Its literally like an airplane meal type deal.

And an error margin, might also have to sustain other kids whos parents have 'forgot' dinner money for a few days. Those kids might well have got there first. Its unfair to just assume the school is throwing meals away to spite kids, when theres not really any reason for them to do that? Wouldn't change the policy of bread and butter and fruit as a minimum, but would only be able to get actual meals if they were going spare., which I would think they usually aren't

Exactly Vicky, this is what it is like, portions are strictly controlled

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Sorry should have read your next post to see where you are coming from. This is not entirely true surely. It might be, but the way my kids school does it is meals are actually prepared elsewhere, then brought in and given as made, so its not like it was when I was at school when there were dinner ladies say, giving an extra scoop of mash or whatever. Its literally like an airplane meal type deal.

And an error margin, might also have to sustain other kids whos parents have 'forgot' dinner money for a few days. Those kids might well have got there first. Its unfair to just assume the school is throwing meals away to spite kids, when theres not really any reason for them to do that? Wouldn't change the policy of bread and butter and fruit as a minimum, but would only be able to get actual meals if they were going spare., which I would think they usually aren't

...all the meals are freshly cooked on the premises at that school, it says so...and they’re very proud of that and their 3 choice many...which apparently now runs to 4 choices...bread and butter and a piece of fruit being the 4th choice...


...if they were key stage 1 children they would be entitled to free school meals...so they’re older children who would have had a full afternoon of work...(fortunately no SATS this year..)....with their bit of bread and butter to sustain them ...