[Crimson Dynamo]

well said Joey

[Nicky91]

Criminal convictions
Robinson's criminal record includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, public order offences, and contempt of court.[154][155][156] He has served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.[14][17][5]
In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010.[7][8]

Assault
In April 2005, Robinson was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer who had intervened to protect Robinson's girlfriend from Robinson.[3][4][5] He was imprisoned for 12 months.[5][3]
In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.[11][9] In November 2011, he was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[12]

False passport
In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the United States illegally. Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else's passport to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced in January 2013 to 10 months' imprisonment.[14][15][157]
Robinson had used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic flight from Heathrow to New York.[14] He had been banned from entering the US due to a drugs offence. When he arrived at New York's JFK Airport, customs officials who took his fingerprints realised he was not McMaster. He was asked to attend a second interview but left the airport, entering the US illegally. He stayed one night and returned to the UK the following day using his own legitimate passport – which bears the name Paul Harris.[13]
Judge Alistair McCreath told him: "What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have. It's not in any sense trivial."[14]
He was released on electronic tag on 22 February 2013.[158]

Fraud
In November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, along with five other defendants.[159] He pleaded guilty to two charges and in January 2014 was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.[16][157]
Robinson's fraud amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months. Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of a series of frauds totalling £640,000. "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning." He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild. Rothschild had assisted some defendants by providing fake pay slips and income details.[17]

so Tommy is a criminal himself, and also someone who had assaulted people himself

got this info all from his Wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_...%28activist%29


so not difficult for me to think of him just having created enemies with the wrong people like i said in my earlier post today one page back

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

so Tommy is a criminal himself, and also someone who had assaulted people himself

got this info all from his Wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_...%28activist%29


so not difficult for me to think of him just having created enemies with the wrong people like i said in my earlier post today one page back

and your point is that if you have assaulted someone in the past or have served your time for an offence you should be assaulted and the law does not apply?

is that what you are saying?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and your point is that if you have assaulted someone in the past or have served your time for an offence you should be assaulted and the law does not apply?

is that what you are saying?

no, what i am trying to say is i don't have that much sympathy for criminals


Assault is Assault, that's what you and others try to point out, but what Tommy did was also wrong, and multiple times

also to the personnel of Luton Town FC, abusive insulting behaviour


even his own wife doesn't approve of his actions (a article from 2015)

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...l?guccounter=1

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and your point is that if you have assaulted someone in the past or have served your time for an offence you should be assaulted and the law does not apply?

is that what you are saying?

Think of it like one of those "poacher get's killed by lions/buffalo/giraffe/frog" threads.

If you spend your life acting like a thug, using violence and getting in peoples faces, don't expect the universe to have too much sympathy when the tables are turned, and I already said earlier in the thread that it was uncalled for.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no, what i am trying to say is i don't have that much sympathy for criminals


Assault is Assault, that's what you and others try to point out, but what Tommy did was also wrong, and multiple times

also to the personnel of Luton Town FC, abusive insulting behaviour


even his own wife doesn't approve of his actions (a article from 2015)

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...l?guccounter=1

but you understand that the law is not about sympathy or who likes who?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and your point is that if you have assaulted someone in the past or have served your time for an offence you should be assaulted and the law does not apply?

is that what you are saying?

Looks like that's what quite a few people are saying.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Think of it like one of those "poacher get's killed by lions/buffalo/giraffe/frog" threads.

If you spend your life acting like a thug, using violence and getting in peoples faces, don't expect the universe to have too much sympathy when the tables are turned, and I already said earlier in the thread that it was uncalled for.

he is not asking for sympathy just that the law is fairly applied and that the news media do their jobs and dont show prejudice

both are honourable aims and i am sure you agree

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he is not asking for sympathy just that the law is fairly applied and that the news media do their jobs and dont show prejudice

both are honourable aims and i am sure you agree

News media are always prejudiced though, you must not have heard of Rupert Murdoch.

Like I said, no one should throw anything at anyone, but schadenfreude is in the dictionary for a reason.

[Livia]

Anti-Semitic attacks at a record high three years in a row... enabled by the Labour party who've made it acceptable. So forgive me if I don't join in the hysterical celebrations over a man being assaulted because he's not in the party you like. You don't have to like someone to understand that the law says it was an assault. Spin and twist as much as you like.

Assault.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i've seen Dezz multiple times having good arguments on here


and that Pokémon comment is silly, very silly

Talking of Pokemon, you remind of the one I think it’s called togepi it’s still in its shell.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Anti-Semitic attacks at a record high three years in a row... enabled by the Labour party who've made it acceptable. So forgive me if I don't join in the hysterical celebrations over a man being assaulted because he's not in the party you like. You don't have to like someone to understand that the law says it was an assault. Spin and twist as much as you like.

Assault.

it is an Assault, yeah it is wrong of course


hysterical celebration, i don't celebrate him being assaulted

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

Anti-Semitic attacks at a record high three years in a row... enabled by the Labour party who've made it acceptable. So forgive me if I don't join in the hysterical celebrations over a man being assaulted because he's not in the party you like. You don't have to like someone to understand that the law says it was an assault. Spin and twist as much as you like.

Assault.

Picking and choosing based on your agenda. Nigel Farage who has a huge following of people he panders to has often been quoted saying things that are easily seen as anti-semitic sentiments but we don't hear a peep from you about that.

If you're going to take a stance against Labour for anti-semitism, you can't just ignore anti-semitism from parties just because you happen to like them or it benefits your position to ignore it. It completely derails what you have to say when you pick and choose like that.

[Epic.]

'THAT'S WHAT YA GET FOR BEIN A FASCIST' remains iconic

[Cherie]

I dont think anyone out canvassing should be attacked whatever their political views? the narrative that the leave vote has given a voice to just acertain group is certainly not coming over on these videos , its given a voice to the extremes on both sides unfortunately

[Glenn.]

A misunderstood hero. I hope he recovers quickly and gets back on his feet