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The Slim Reaper · 09-05-2019, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Or else?

Or else you won't, and I'll get on with my life.

Alf · 09-05-2019, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Stop splitting hairs, you know excatly what Dezzy was saying. He knew exactly what he was doing in the hope of a few cheap laughs from some people still stuck with racist mind sets. It’s grotesque.

So even you admit that his only intention here is trying to get laughs. Why is trying to make people laugh, wrong?

Tom4784 · 09-05-2019, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

He didn't take any actions, he spoke his mind.

And he's free to do that and the BBC are free to not employ him for it as he's stirred up a scandal.

All opinions have consequences, all opinions can cause a reaction. If you're going to post a racist tweet then you better be prepared for it to rightfully blow up in your face. You're free to speak your mind and anyone else is free to take action too, whether that's blocking you or firing you for bringing bad press attention to their door.

The problem is that you basically want selective freedom of speech. You want freedom of speech without the right of response and that's not freedom of speech.

user104658 · 09-05-2019, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

So even you admit that his only intention here is trying to get laughs. Why is trying to make people laugh, wrong?

Alf... if you were walking along in a muddy field and someone deliberately tripped you up and you went face first into a pile of cow muck, I'd hazard a guess that there are PLENTY of people in the world who would laugh. Even if you knocked out a tooth or bust your nose - some people would laugh.

Is a person doing that to you OK because he was just trying to make people laugh?

Let's make it even more extreme: You're walking down the street and some kid, trying to make his friends laugh / impress them, sucker punches you square in the side of the head. What do you do? Do you say "Ahh the little scamp was only trying to make his friends laugh!" and forget about it?

Because that seems to be your logic here. That any comment or action is fine, even if it hurts some people, so long as it was done with the intention of making other people laugh

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Ammi · 09-05-2019, 07:03 PM

...I can’t believe he didn’t realise or consider what the consequences would be when he posted it but he posted it anyway...so he obviously thought his ‘joke’ outweighed everything else...its incredible that he could have thought a ‘joke’ with racist connotations about a newborn baby was in any way funny...

Alf · 09-05-2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Alf... if you were walking along in a muddy field and someone deliberately tripped you up and you went face first into a pile of cow muck, I'd hazard a guess that there are PLENTY of people in the world who would laugh. Even if you knocked out a tooth or bust your nose - some people would laugh.

Is a person doing that to you OK because he was just trying to make people laugh?

Let's make it even more extreme: You're walking down the street and some kid, trying to make his friends laugh / impress them, sucker punches you square in the side of the head. What do you do? Do you say "Ahh the little scamp was only trying to make his friends laugh!" and forget about it?

Because that seems to be your logic here. That any comment or action is fine, even if it hurts some people, so long as it was done with the intention of making other people laugh

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You're putting physical assault on the same level as free speech there, I see them as two different things.

arista · 09-05-2019, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...I can’t believe he didn’t realise or consider what the consequences would be when he posted it but he posted it anyway...so he obviously thought his ‘joke’ outweighed everything else...its incredible that he could have thought a ‘joke’ with racist connotations about a newborn baby was in any way funny...

His Mate on Radio 5 this morning
Emma Barnett show
said he may have been drinking alot of Wine

Ammi · 09-05-2019, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

His Mate on Radio 5 this morning
Emma Barnett show
said he may have been drinking alot of Wine

...drunk on the job and racist then, Arista...it was never going to end any differently to him losing his job....

arista · 09-05-2019, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...drunk on the job and racist then, Arista...it was never going to end any differently to him losing his job....

No his one Job was BBC Radio 5
on Saturdays 9AM

That photo is all over USA news.
Giving the Commercial BBC America a bad name

Twosugars · 09-05-2019, 07:42 PM

He can go and work for some alt right media. Infowars or Breitbart could have him. He can exercise his free racist speech there, BBC has standards

Twosugars · 09-05-2019, 07:44 PM

Btw didn't know but he had been sacked by beeb before, for inciting violence.
Doubt he will get a third chance.

arista · 09-05-2019, 11:11 PM

Cherie · 10-05-2019, 06:54 AM

What is that thing he is wearing on his head

joeysteele · 10-05-2019, 07:01 AM

He's just awful.
The BBC right to get rid of him.

This wasn't even funny and for him to try to say he didn't even know the Sussex's baby had just been born, is absolutely beyond belief.

Twosugars · 10-05-2019, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

What is that thing he is wearing on his head

A fez hat

arista · 10-05-2019, 09:28 AM

Yes Cherie
like Tommy Cooper
Danny survived Cancer

Cherie · 10-05-2019, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Cherie
like Tommy Cooper
Danny survived Cancer

I doubt Tommy wore his fez indoors, it was part of his act

arista · 10-05-2019, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I doubt Tommy wore his fez indoors, it was part of his act

Yes of course

The Slim Reaper · 10-05-2019, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I doubt Tommy wore his fez indoors, it was part of his act

I guess you could could almost say that Danny's career finished "jus like tha"

Oliver_W · 10-05-2019, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

He can go and work for some alt right media. Infowars or Breitbart could have him. He can exercise his free racist speech there, BBC has standards

Oh come on. You can't seriously compare someone posting a silly misjudged joke to the likes of Infowars and Brietbart.

Mystic Mock · 10-05-2019, 12:04 PM

A silly joke to make, and I don't buy his excuses at all.

However a lot of us have watched shows like Family Guy and South Park make silly, insensitive jokes and we don't want them to lose their jobs.

My point being basically that a Comedian losing his job for telling a joke (even if it's in poor taste) is harsh imo, maybe a suspension would've sufficed.

Mystic Mock · 10-05-2019, 12:04 PM

A silly joke to make, and I don't buy his excuses at all.

However a lot of us have watched shows like Family Guy and South Park make silly, insensitive jokes and we don't want them (the writers) to lose their jobs.

My point being basically that a Comedian losing his job for telling a joke (even if it's in poor taste) is harsh imo, maybe a suspension would've sufficed.