[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if you strip leave down to it's basics, it was take control of EU immigration and bring back control to our own parliament, freedom to create our own trade deals .... there really is nothing wrong with those goals.

Agree completely with this. Nothing wrong with those goals at all.

They are clear and easily understood, and that's basically what people voted leave for.

Disagree with this. Of course I don't know everyone in the country of even my area..but in my experience no way was the majority leave vote sensible like the way you put it. It really was 'immigrants **** off back to where you are from, close the borders fullstop', 'we spend so much on the EU when it could be going to the NHS and such' (as IF anything potentially saved would go towards something worthwhile. More likely another bribe to the DUP next time theres an election...), 'the news said we could leave and not pay the fees and control immigration whilst also retaining our current trade deals and maybe even making them better'..along with a couple of people thinking it through and basically coming to the conclusion you made above, and voting accordingly and being able to actually articulate their views rather than 'rargh, immigrants'.

Could just be my area, could just be the people I know (and listen to when out, am one of those annoying eavesdroppers ) but yeah. Not my experience at all. Its so depressing setting it out like that..