[Tom4784]

Racists have always and will always complain about **** like this, racists who claim that english culture is being destroyed when they don't even know their own history or the origins of the varied culture we enjoy now.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Racists have always and will always complain about **** like this, racists who claim that english culture is being destroyed when they don't even know their own history or the origins of the varied culture we enjoy now.

Have you watched the programme the final word was with a Pakastani man who has lived in the East End since he was 13 and he said the British culture in the area was being eradicated and would be gone completely in 10 years

[Cherry Christmas]

watched the whole thing now, it was very thought provoking, Eileen had lovely neighbours and didn't want to move but had no choice because her children had already moved and she was moving to be near them so in effect someone who was forced to move rather than really wanting to move. The balance of the area has shifted, just 3 white British children per class of 30, 146 different languages and a new child coming once a week with no English (though I find the once a week thing a bit hard to believe given classes are full and they would have to wait for a place?) I agreed with the Head teacher that children don't see religion or colour, however its in the broad scheme of things that there are issues as the cultures do not mix socially very much, I have had experience of this myself with my kids who went to a predominantly Asian school, the Asian kids are being tutored or at mosque or the families don't want them mixing with white/black families as they don't want any issues withboyfriends/girlfriends from different backgrounds and pre marriage pregnancies are very much frowned upon so they keep a tight rein on who their children mix with, the same goes for different religions the Sikhs want to keep to themselves as well and don't want to mix with the muslims etc, what Osman said was true enough he was picked on as a kid for being different but was then accepted as his friends got to know him and realised he liked the same things, but there were pressures on him as he said himself he had to live a dual life, being one thing at home and another with his friends, the British born people in Newham lost their places to socialise and mix as a community as the area changed and pubs closed, and its a pressure thing as well, like the Mother in the clip said ...people asking...you don't still live around here do you? although I did have to laugh as the daughter is moving to Raleigh so its hard the end of the world for them I think Newham is a prime example of an area where the balance has shifted too much, multi culture should mean just that, multi....however humans will generally try to stick to what they know, when the Irish came in the 50s and 60s there were Irish areas and Irish clubs etc, I suppose the difference was the Irish did cross marry but that is not happening in these new communities...a good watch thank you Livia and Oliver for finding it.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Cherie

watched the whole thing now, it was very thought provoking, Eileen had lovely neighbours and didn't want to move but had no choice because her children had already moved and she was moving to be near them so in effect someone who was forced to move rather than really wanting to move. The balance of the area has shifted, just 3 white British children per class of 30, 146 different languages and a new child coming once a week with no English (though I find the once a week thing a bit hard to believe given classes are full and they would have to wait for a place?) I agreed with the Head teacher that children don't see religion or colour, however its in the broad scheme of things that there are issues as the cultures do not mix socially very much, I have had experience of this myself with my kids who went to a predominantly Asian school, the Asian kids are being tutored or at mosque or the families don't want them mixing with white/black families as they don't want any issues withboyfriends/girlfriends from different backgrounds and pre marriage pregnancies are very much frowned upon so they keep a tight rein on who their children mix with, the same goes for different religions the Sikhs want to keep to themselves as well and don't want to mix with the muslims etc, what Osman said was true enough he was picked on as a kid for being different but was then accepted as his friends got to know him and realised he liked the same things, but there were pressures on him as he said himself he had to live a dual life, being one thing at home and another with his friends, the British born people in Newham lost their places to socialise and mix as a community as the area changed and pubs closed, and its a pressure thing as well, like the Mother in the clip said ...people asking...you don't still live around here do you? although I did have to laugh as the daughter is moving to Raleigh so its hard the end of the world for them I think Newham is a prime example of an area where the balance has shifted too much, multi culture should mean just that, multi....however humans will generally try to stick to what they know, when the Irish came in the 50s and 60s there were Irish areas and Irish clubs etc, I suppose the difference was the Irish did cross marry but that is not happening in these new communities...a good watch thank you Livia and Oliver for finding it.

Its a bit of a stretch to say she was forced to move.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its a bit of a stretch to say she was forced to move.

They were forced to move by their deep discomfort around people that aren’t white, the poor souls

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Liam-

They were forced to move by their deep discomfort around people that aren’t white, the poor souls

Have to agree. The lady said so in the programme when she said they werent 'allowed' to mix with other cultures.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its a bit of a stretch to say she was forced to move.

Not it isn't she need as she said herself 'someone to keep an eye on her' and her family had moved from the area, so how is it a stretch, if her family had stayed put so would she

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not it isn't she need as she said herself 'someone to keep an eye on her' and her family had moved from the area, so how is it a stretch, if her family had stayed put so would she

Were her family forced out? It didnt say so, bit of a stretch to say she was forced.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not it isn't she need as she said herself 'someone to keep an eye on her' and her family had moved from the area, so how is it a stretch, if her family had stayed put so would she

So she moved because her family did?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So she moved because her family did?

And, if immigrants had not moved into the area she'd have probably still moved to be with her daughter..

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So she moved because her family did?

Have you watched the programme?

[Ammi]

...It was a strange one what the Indian guy felt about ‘British Culture’ back in the day ...the somehow nostalgia of it..?...because it was back in the day that he spoke of racism toward him from the neighbourhood...and then as he said ...people accepted him for the person he was and stopped focusing on his culture and any differences in culture...I don’t see that as being any different to the here and now...it’s sadly not always that everyone looks beyond culture and cultural dress etc and at the individual...actually looking at who their neighbour is as a person, which is surely the only thing of importance...as with Eileen and her Somalian neighbours ...who she wishes the world was full of neighbours as lovely as them.....

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Racists have always and will always complain about **** like this, racists who claim that english culture is being destroyed when they don't even know their own history or the origins of the varied culture we enjoy now.

"Varied culture we enjoy now" So you're pretty much in agreement with Clease and what he's saying, right?

And by enjoying it now, does that mean we didn't enjoy it before now?

[Cherry Christmas]

I was also reminded of a story my bro in law told me, that he ran into a couple from Norfolk while out walking in County Galway last week, and they have moved from Norfolk because of the influx of Londoners

My son has just bought a flat in Norwich I hope he didn't mean him

[Ammi]

...when I was in Norwich a few weeks ago...it was the word on the street about these young people coming in buying all of their flats with their foreign money and such the like.....

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...when I was in Norwich a few weeks ago...it was the word on the street about these young people coming in buying all of their flats with their foreign money and such the like.....