[Beso]

Did they go out looking to attack a lesbian couple....I doubt it..


They attacked though, i think this is more a psychological issue more than a direct and targeted attack on the gay community.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Did they go out looking to attack a lesbian couple....I doubt it..


They attacked though, i think this is more a psychological issue more than a direct and targeted attack on the gay community.

Is there a difference?

No, they didn't go out on the hunt for a gay couple to attack. But, they still attacked a gay couple... for being gay. The difference doesn't change anything.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Is there a difference?

No, they didn't go out on the hunt for a gay couple to attack. But, they still attacked a gay couple... for being gay. The difference doesn't change anything.

Could easily have been an old man that had told them to show some respect.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Could easily have been an old man that had told them to show some respect.

Did you miss the part where they demanded the lesbian couple kiss for their amusement?

No it couldn’t have easily been an old man

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Did you miss the part where they demanded the lesbian couple kiss for their amusement?

No it couldn’t have easily been an old man

It could have been, if he was sat where they were and turned and told them to shut up...

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Could easily have been an old man that had told them to show some respect.

Their hostility towards gays was pre existing. Opportunity to act on it presented itself and they took it.

But also what kind of a man beats up women?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Their hostility towards gays was pre existing. Opportunity to act on it presented itself and they took it.

But also what kind of a man beats up women?

The same kind that would be at up and old man that told them to shut up in front of thier mates.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The same kind that would be at up and old man that told them to shut up in front of thier mates.

Why discuss hypotheticals?
Let's stick to facts. They perpetrated a violent homophobic attack

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Why discuss hypotheticals?
Let's stick to facts. They perpetrated a violent homophobic attack

That's been established, please allow the discussion to move on.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Could easily have been an old man that had told them to show some respect.

Well it wasn't was it? It was a lesbian couple minding their business before being subjected to misogynist and homophobic harassment. ****ing hell why are you trying to derail from this??

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They attacked though, i think this is more a psychological issue more than a direct and targeted attack on the gay community.

I'd say the only vulnerable ones were the ones left blooded and scarred. Ridiculous to suggest this was not homophobic attack!

[sleleen]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I'd say the only vulnerable ones were the ones left blooded and scarred. Ridiculous to suggest this was not homophobic attack!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Did they go out looking to attack a lesbian couple....I doubt it..


They attacked though, i think this is more a psychological issue more than a direct and targeted attack on the gay community.

Psychological in a sense but we're in the realms of social psychology here not individual psychology. Gang mentality, bystander apathy, boasting and displays of "power". These individuals are not mentally ill.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Psychological in a sense but we're in the realms of social psychology here not individual psychology. Gang mentality, bystander apathy, boasting and displays of "power". These individuals are not mentally ill.

But they are immature enough to react violently if they are somehow belittled in front of thier mates...like when they refused to kiss...


Same would have happened if an old bloke had pulled them up for swearing or something..

Imo..there wasn't an attack until the couple started standing thier ground, making the mockers turn volent to save face.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by parmnion

But they are immature enough to react violently if they are somehow belittled in front of thier mates...like when they refused to kiss...


Same would have happened if an old bloke had pulled them up for swearing or something..

Imo..there wasn't an attack until the couple started standing thier ground, making the mockers turn volent to save face.

Its almost like the women made the men attack them. We see this attitude in other areas of life so its not so shocking here.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its almost like the women made the men attack them. We see this attitude in other areas of life so its not so shocking here.

It's not like that though...

And neither is a women wearing a short skirt an excuse....


I bet one of these kids faces was turning red in front of his mates..and I would happily back myself in thinking that's when it turned violent

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It's not like that though...

And neither is a women wearing a short skirt an excuse....


I bet one of these kids faces was turning red in front of his mates..and I would happily back myself in thinking that's when it turned violent

Lets stop speculating and concentrate on what we know. The fact that it turned violent is my main concern, humiliation or not?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Lets stop speculating and concentrate on what we know. The fact that it turned violent is my main concern, humiliation or not?

If that is your main concern you should listen to all opinions...instead of belittling to a minor extent.....the ones that make no sense to you..



The social workers will be on my hymn sheet