[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Where is the media frenzy around the rise of the far right?....

Stuck in 1980 something...

The far right is well under control in the UK. .the left is beginning to run as wild as the anti jew right was back then.

Be carefull you don't pick up any left over tags cause you were around in 2019 if you reach 2050

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Stuck in 1980 something...

The far right is well under control in the UK. .the left is beginning to run as wild as the anti jew right was back then.

Be carefull you don't pick up any left over tags cause you were around in 2019 if you reach 2050

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Stuck in 1980 something...

The far right is well under control in the UK. .the left is beginning to run as wild as the anti jew right was back then.

Be carefull you don't pick up any left over tags cause you were around in 2019 if you reach 2050

Tell that to Jo Cox

Hell, let's make this international and tell that to the victims of attacks on abortion clinics in the US or the victim of the Charlottesville killer. Tell it to the people who would have been killed by the weapons seized in the story above.

Right Wing extremism is a growing threat and you should be shining a light on it, denouncing it, not protecting the extreme elements because you don't want to admit your political allignment has a dark side you should want to excise, not deny it exists.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Tell that to Jo Cox

Hell, let's make this international and tell that to the victims of attacks on abortion clinics in the US or the victim of the Charlottesville killer. Tell it to the people who would have been killed by the weapons seized in the story above.

Right Wing extremism is a growing threat and you should be shining a light on it, denouncing it, not protecting the extreme elements because you don't want to admit your political allignment has a dark side you should want to excise, not deny it exists.

Left wing extremism is the only thing I see on the rise in my country. But you don't want to admit that because you have a dark side regarding your political allignement regarding Jews.

[Ammi]

...thank the Lord they were seized and never used.../...well done to the Italian securities and police force.....

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Left wing extremism is the only thing I see on the rise in my country. But you don't want to admit that because you have a dark side regarding your political allignement regarding Jews.

On what basis are you implying Dezzy is antisemitic? How can you do that to a member who posted many times condemning antisemitism?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

On what basis are you implying Dezzy is antisemitic? How can you do that to a member who posted many times condemning antisemitism?

Same basis he is using to imply what I'm all about..where the outrage at that?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Left wing extremism is the only thing I see on the rise in my country. But you don't want to admit that because you have a dark side regarding your political allignement regarding Jews.

The Far Right are figures of fun in the UK. Only likeminded people could ever agree with them. This episode happened in Italy... maybe that's why the media in this country isn't covering it... Italy probably doesn't cover much stuff from the Right or the Left in the UK.

I thought the glib "the Left and their milkshakes" in the OP wasn't called for. How about daubing swastikas on synagogues, or smashing Jewish gravestones? Because the Left is endorsing that behaviour by their reluctance to deal with anti-Semitism.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Far Right are figures of fun in the UK. Only likeminded people could ever agree with them. This episode happened in Italy... maybe that's why the media in this country isn't covering it... Italy probably doesn't cover much stuff from the Right or the Left in the UK.

I thought the glib "the Left and their milkshakes" in the OP wasn't called for. How about daubing swastikas on synagogues, or smashing Jewish gravestones? Because the Left is endorsing that behaviour by their reluctance to deal with anti-Semitism.

Your ability to create false narratives is actually quite impressive at this point

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Your ability to create false narratives is actually quite impressive at this point

Jeremy Corbyn and his party have not dealt with anti-Semitism. Consequently they're being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. This is not my narrative.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

Jeremy Corbyn and his party have not dealt with anti-Semitism. Consequently they're being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. This is not my narrative.

No, your narrative is that the left endorse and condone antisemitism when it’s strictly not true in the slightest.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Far Right are figures of fun in the UK. Only likeminded people could ever agree with them. This episode happened in Italy... maybe that's why the media in this country isn't covering it... Italy probably doesn't cover much stuff from the Right or the Left in the UK.

I thought the glib "the Left and their milkshakes" in the OP wasn't called for. How about daubing swastikas on synagogues, or smashing Jewish gravestones? Because the Left is endorsing that behaviour by their reluctance to deal with anti-Semitism.

Hang on, one minute your saying the far right are figures of fun in the UK then you say there are swastikas being sprayed and gravestones smashed. are you suggesting it's Labour supporters doing this and not the far right? ...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Far Right are figures of fun in the UK. Only likeminded people could ever agree with them. This episode happened in Italy... maybe that's why the media in this country isn't covering it... Italy probably doesn't cover much stuff from the Right or the Left in the UK.

I thought the glib "the Left and their milkshakes" in the OP wasn't called for. How about daubing swastikas on synagogues, or smashing Jewish gravestones? Because the Left is endorsing that behaviour by their reluctance to deal with anti-Semitism.

Oh, so it's not just Labour that hates Jews now it's everyone on the left is it? A ridiculous statement and one that tarnishes any good intentions you may have.

Stop using the threat of branding people anti-semitic if they don't agree with yours views, it's gross and it makes light of actual anti-semitism.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Far Right are figures of fun in the UK.

Why the government have started issuing far right terrorism alerts then?

Also, yeah my milkshake comment was dumb in retrospect.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Why the government have started issuing far right terrorism alerts then?

Also, yeah my milkshake comment was dumb in retrospect.

The far right in the UK are a small faction, and the main instigators will be known to the police and the security services otherwise they wouldn't be issuing alerts. I am not in any way playing them down, most people surely think they're dinosaurs, trying to hang onto a society that thankfully doesn't exist anymore. And yes, they're dangerous... but I have faith in the people of the UK... the kind of people who threw Moseley and his ridiculous black shirts out of Cable street in the 1930s are the same kind of people who will not now bow white supremacists any more than they would bow to Islamic extremists.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Why the government have started issuing far right terrorism alerts then?

Also, yeah my milkshake comment was dumb in retrospect.

Dont think it was that dumb.
It drew a comparison between lighthearted milkshake and brutality of the far right.
They dont know how to protest without brutality. And so weapons or violence from tommy and his supporters
The bottom line is a milkshake wont kill, a thrown bottle or a fist may.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Left wing extremism is the only thing I see on the rise in my country. But you don't want to admit that because you have a dark side regarding your political allignement regarding Jews.

I've actually said early on in that anti-semitic thread that I think those elements and the people who enforce them should be excised from Labour, I believe I might have used something akin to the phrase of 'cut out the rot'?

That's the difference between me and you, I acknowledge issues and condemn them if I oppose them regardless of politics, you only condemn such things if they come from the opposition but never from your own side.

So yeah, nice try but an utter fail. Whataboutism is not going to work here. Right wing extremism is a growing threat and by continuing to pretend it doesn't exist, the right are only letting it thrive. Acknowledge the rot and excise it, don't blame the opposing side for it. That does nothing.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've actually said early on in that anti-semitic thread that I think those elements and the people who enforce them should be excised from Labour, I believe I might have used something akin to the phrase of 'cut out the rot'?

That's the difference between me and you, I acknowledge issues and condemn them if I oppose them regardless of politics, you only condemn such things if they come from the opposition but never from your own side.

So yeah, nice try but an utter fail. Whataboutism is not going to work here. Right wing extremism is a growing threat and by continuing to pretend it doesn't exist, the right are only letting it thrive. Acknowledge the rot and excise it, don't blame the opposing side for it. That does nothing.

Ive condemned plenty, you just fail to see it cause it gives you nothing to leap about with your pearls as though someone had shat under your nose with

..the side I sit on is not the right...nor indeed the left....so I'm sorry but even if you think it...it's really not an issue that interests me...we all know tommy robinson is a cock...we all know trump is a cock...we all know boris is a cock..we all know Jeremy is a cock....we all know there are right wing fascists..we all know there are left wing fascists.....but because you think I have fascist or racist views you aotomatically assume I sit on the right.....


Assume away...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ive condemned plenty, you just fail to see it cause it gives you nothing to leap about with your pearls as though someone had shat under your nose with

..the side I sit on is not the right...nor indeed the left....so I'm sorry but even if you think it...it's really not an issue that interests me...we all know tommy robinson is a cock...we all know trump is a cock...we all know boris is a cock..we all know Jeremy is a cock....we all know there are right wing fascists..we all know there are left wing fascists.....but because you think I have fascist or racist views you aotomatically assume I sit on the right.....


Assume away...

You basically responded to this thread with 'what about the left?!' You sit on the right because you are opposed to the left. When I and others brought up the fact that right wing terrorism exists, you basically refused to acknowledge it. You're just trying to backtrack without admitting you were wrong.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You basically responded to this thread with 'what about the left?!'

Instead of commenting on the article she posted, all the op had to say amounted to a sarcastic "lol milkshakes", which are used by the left. So the bar had already been lowered, and the left had already been brought into it.