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Old 17-07-2019, 11:15 AM #1
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Left wing extremism is the only thing I see on the rise in my country. But you don't want to admit that because you have a dark side regarding your political allignement regarding Jews.
I've actually said early on in that anti-semitic thread that I think those elements and the people who enforce them should be excised from Labour, I believe I might have used something akin to the phrase of 'cut out the rot'?

That's the difference between me and you, I acknowledge issues and condemn them if I oppose them regardless of politics, you only condemn such things if they come from the opposition but never from your own side.

So yeah, nice try but an utter fail. Whataboutism is not going to work here. Right wing extremism is a growing threat and by continuing to pretend it doesn't exist, the right are only letting it thrive. Acknowledge the rot and excise it, don't blame the opposing side for it. That does nothing.

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I've actually said early on in that anti-semitic thread that I think those elements and the people who enforce them should be excised from Labour, I believe I might have used something akin to the phrase of 'cut out the rot'?

That's the difference between me and you, I acknowledge issues and condemn them if I oppose them regardless of politics, you only condemn such things if they come from the opposition but never from your own side.

So yeah, nice try but an utter fail. Whataboutism is not going to work here. Right wing extremism is a growing threat and by continuing to pretend it doesn't exist, the right are only letting it thrive. Acknowledge the rot and excise it, don't blame the opposing side for it. That does nothing.


Ive condemned plenty, you just fail to see it cause it gives you nothing to leap about with your pearls as though someone had shat under your nose with

..the side I sit on is not the right...nor indeed the left....so I'm sorry but even if you think it...it's really not an issue that interests me...we all know tommy robinson is a cock...we all know trump is a cock...we all know boris is a cock..we all know Jeremy is a cock....we all know there are right wing fascists..we all know there are left wing fascists.....but because you think I have fascist or racist views you aotomatically assume I sit on the right.....


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Ive condemned plenty, you just fail to see it cause it gives you nothing to leap about with your pearls as though someone had shat under your nose with

..the side I sit on is not the right...nor indeed the left....so I'm sorry but even if you think it...it's really not an issue that interests me...we all know tommy robinson is a cock...we all know trump is a cock...we all know boris is a cock..we all know Jeremy is a cock....we all know there are right wing fascists..we all know there are left wing fascists.....but because you think I have fascist or racist views you aotomatically assume I sit on the right.....


Assume away...
You basically responded to this thread with 'what about the left?!' You sit on the right because you are opposed to the left. When I and others brought up the fact that right wing terrorism exists, you basically refused to acknowledge it. You're just trying to backtrack without admitting you were wrong.
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You basically responded to this thread with 'what about the left?!'
Instead of commenting on the article she posted, all the op had to say amounted to a sarcastic "lol milkshakes", which are used by the left. So the bar had already been lowered, and the left had already been brought into it.
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Instead of commenting on the article she posted, all the op had to say amounted to a sarcastic "lol milkshakes", which are used by the left. So the bar had already been lowered, and the left had already been brought into it.
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Instead of commenting on the article she posted, all the op had to say amounted to a sarcastic "lol milkshakes", which are used by the left. So the bar had already been lowered, and the left had already been brought into it.
More whataboutism.
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More whataboutism.
The o/p was whataboutism.
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The o/p was whataboutism.
Except it isn't because Dia is not trying to discredit the story by making out that the left is the same. Whataboutism is when you see an argument or story and you try to undermine it by trying to refute it by highlighting false hypocrisy without directly handling the point that's being made.
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Instead of commenting on the article she posted, all the op had to say amounted to a sarcastic "lol milkshakes", which are used by the left. So the bar had already been lowered, and the left had already been brought into it.
Agree with this tbh. Ridiculous opening post IMO and not really something to be laughed at either.

Yes, the far right are a huge problem..and seem to be getting worse.

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