[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Walls work.

The border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99%, Hungary found erecting a border wall cut illegal immigration by a similar %, and Bulgaria's border wall saw illegals decrease seven-fold.


They're still not concentration camps

Again, you speak out more against the term 'concentration camp' then you ever have of the cruelty that goes on within them. Says it all really.

Your stats also operate under the assumption that everyone in these concentration camps are illegal immigrants, they are not always. People seeking legal migration or asylum are also placed in these camps, as are latin people that ICE suspects of being illegal based purely on their race.

There's also vital difference between those examples you've listed and the US, the mere size of the borders. A wall of brick or mortar will never be effective because the US/Mexico border is too big to man a wall properly. There was a republican Governer, I believe, I ccan't recall his name but he completely shat on the idea of the wall because it wouldn't do anything unless it was manned and doing so would be impossible. He instead offered up the idea of a digital wall that would be cheaper and more effective at identifying smugglers and illegal immigrants.

But then again, focusing on illegal immigrants doesn't really reflect the full image of who is incarcerated at these concentration camps. A wall won't stop the US from flouting the Flores Agreement and detaining immigrants who are trying to seek asylum or start a life in the US legally. The illegal reasoning is just an excuse to dehumanise the people whose human rights are being eroded.