[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean, from what I've read about it, the suggestion has been that she did it as "revenge" for a group of them (possibly not all 12) having sex with her consensually, but several of them filming it on their phones without consent and then refusing to delete it.

So whilst accusing them of rape is obviously a MASSIVELY over the top and immature reaction ... I would say that Nicky's assessment of "vile boys" is still quite accurate. No?

And TBQFH I'm very skeptical about how "consensual" a gangbang between one probably drunk 19 year old girl and multiple boys being filmed on smartphones is likely to have been, and strongly suspect she may have withdrawn her statement due to being grilled about it in an unpleasant manner and just wanting to get the hell out of there. If her statement was obviously a bit mis-remembered and confused (as it obviously would be) and then one of the boys proved he wasn't there, because perhaps that one did leave the group earlier without her realising, it makes her entire statement fall apart, the police start aggressively quizzing her for "lying", and she just wants to go home.

Spot on.

Honestly, I reckon she probably consented to a couple, then they all just went to town. Now some would say consenting to a gangbang means it IS a free for all, but IMO no, consent is still needed for each bloke tbh. Told the story, police were all like 'well consent to one dick means consent to all' or something, so it was withdrawn. Something along those lines tbh.

Plus filming her without consent, is very dodgy ground too.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This also serves as a prime example of why that "punish the accuser when there's proof" thread is utterly wrong headed because I'm getting the impression that plenty of people on this thread believe that there is "proof" that this girl wasn't assaulted in any way and would gleefully see her charged with a crime, when there clearly just ****ing isn't proof of that at all.

Yes, its a bit concerning how..if a allegation is withdrawn for any reason..its always 'see, proof she LIED, hang her!' type posts., And from people who minutes before were saying IF there was proof the guys should go to jail or whatever. The proof does not seem to need to be there for attacking the alleged victim though? Very odd.