[arista]

Made During WW2 in USA

[Tom4784]

It's a sad state of affairs on both sides of the atlantic that this video is still relevant today.

[Oliver_W]

That video doesn't really relate to rhetoric used by Trump. As far as I know he's never used the "they're taking our jobs" thing, and he's not been against legal migration.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a sad state of affairs on both sides of the Atlantic that this video is still relevant today.

It was made as warning.
As USA had been
dragged into WW2 in 1941 Dec,
with Pearl Harbor
Japan won that early morning attack.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That video doesn't really relate to rhetoric used by Trump. As far as I know he's never used the "they're taking our jobs" thing, and he's not been against legal migration.

Of Course not.
Ignore the post above it.


A Great Film made as warning.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That video doesn't really relate to rhetoric used by Trump. As far as I know he's never used the "they're taking our jobs" thing, and he's not been against legal migration.

No, he just made out that Mexicans are dangerous rapists, and that people can't criticise him if their ancestral countries are, ahem, '****holes'.

He makes out that the press are the enemy of the people, that minorities are a threat and he celebrates publically when someone who criticises him suffers misfortune (context: The president of the united states cheered when a member of, congress, I believe, had their house broken into after he criticised Trump.

Most of what he does is steeped in fascist logic.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No, he just made out that Mexicans are dangerous rapists, and that people can't criticise him if their ancestral countries are, ahem, '****holes'.

He makes out that the press are the enemy of the people, that minorities are a threat and he celebrates publically when someone who criticises him suffers misfortune (context: The president of the united states cheered when a member of, congress, I believe, had their house broken into after he criticised Trump.

Most of what he does is steeped in fascist logic.

He missed out the Word "Some"
typical way he speaks

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

He missed out the Word "Some"
typical way he speaks

Oh, that makes him calling mexicans dangerous rapists okay, does it?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Oh, that makes him calling mexicans dangerous rapists okay, does it?

Some are. Some of every race are. But the quote in its full shows he doesn't think they all are.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”


Some white people bring problems, drugs, crime, and a rapists.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Oh, that makes him calling Mexicans dangerous rapists okay, does it?

Some were

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Some are. Some of every race are. But the quote in its full shows he doesn't think they all are.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”


Some white people bring problems, drugs, crime, and a rapists.

Thanks for posting a quote that illustrates my point. He's painting immigrants as rapists and drug barons and he only offers a reluctant 'some of them might be good people' at the end which suggests he considers most of them bad. If you think that quote disproves what I'm saying then you're very much wrong.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Thanks for posting a quote that illustrates my point. He's painting immigrants as rapists and drug barons and he only offers a reluctant 'some of them might be good people' at the end which suggests he considers most of them bad. If you think that quote disproves what I'm saying then you're very much wrong.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you."

So clearly there are immigrants who aren't rapists and drug barons.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you."

So clearly there are immigrants who aren't rapists and drug barons.

That's some mental gymnastics right there.

He is saying that 'Mexico doesn't send their best' which is him saying that immigrants are inherently bad and his comments about drugs and rape afterwards solidifies that. You're ignoring the vast majority of the quote to find ways to justify your agenda and it's not gonna work since this quote encapsulates why Trump is a racist and why the extreme right have been enboldened in recent years.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Oh, that makes him calling mexicans dangerous rapists okay, does it?

Just dangerous exaggeration that adds nothing but hate to any debate

Thanks to Oliver for the actual FACTS

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just dangerous exaggeration that adds nothing but hate to any debate

Thanks to Oliver for the actual FACTS

Oh dear, is it that time again when I need to explain to you the difference between facts and opinions?

Oliver posted an opinion, he has not posted facts. He posted a quote that, in all honesty, benefits what I'm saying more and he's done some incredible mental gymnastics to try to make it fit his point of view.

[Oliver_W]

Then why hasn't he even tried (or even suggested) to block all migration from Mexico, in the same way he did with a handful of terror-infected countries?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That video doesn't really relate to rhetoric used by Trump. As far as I know he's never used the "they're taking our jobs" thing, and he's not been against legal migration.

And his condemnation of ' the squad'....That's him not being against legal migrants and American born ethnic minorities?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And his condemnation of ' the squad'....That's him not being against legal migrants and American born ethnic minorities?

Y'mean the tweet chain that ended with
Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly


?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Y'mean the tweet chain that ended with
Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly


?

Yes that one.... why the need for the chain initally?!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Oh dear, is it that time again when I need to explain to you the difference between facts and opinions?

Oliver posted an opinion, he has not posted facts. He posted a quote that, in all honesty, benefits what I'm saying more and he's done some incredible mental gymnastics to try to make it fit his point of view.

He posted an actual fact. A quote. Thanks to Oliver we have facts not preducice

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes that one.... why the need for the chain initally?!

Lots of things Trump says and does are needless.