[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm so tired of people enabling terrorism by refusing to call it what it is. The guy is a terrorist, every right wing extremist that picks up a gun and shoots people for his ideals is a terrorist. His previous vile actions do not change the fact that he is a terrorist and he committed mass murder to create terror.

Trump has, time and time again, used extreme language and rhetoric and you only have to watch videos of the crowds at his events to see the effect that his words have on racists and extreme elements. It empowers them, it makes them feel validated. He is a leader and one with a cult-like following, when he tells people that mexican immigrants are racists, when he makes them out to be vermin or that the media is the enemy (not long after which, a US news channel was attacked btw), when he doubles down on racist attitudes and responds to criticism by hosting more rallies to incense his followers further he is telling them that their hatred is okay, they are taking his words as a call to action, as permission to commit atrocities.

Every other president and world leader as a whole knows to consider their words carefully, most leaders won't speak unless they know exactly what they are going to say and Trump is proof of why. A leader's words can inspire people to kill when they speak carelessly.

"Trump has, time and time again, used extreme language and rhetoric"

this from a poster who regularly, until called out, was posting that the US president was a child rapist so forgive me if i cant take you too seriously on that point above

[The Slim Reaper]

Shouldn't posts be about the subject and not other posters? Asking for a friend.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Shouldn't posts be about the subject and not other posters? Asking for a friend.

You’d think so wouldn’t you?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Trump has, time and time again, used extreme language and rhetoric"

this from a poster who regularly, until called out, was posting that the US president was a child rapist so forgive me if i cant take you too seriously on that point above

Typical deflection and whataboutism

Trump is a rapist, he raped Ivana and he has a long friendship with Epstein and a long list of accusations against him including a sealed case from a child he raped, he himself has talked about grabbing women by their 'pussies'. He is an abuser yet you still love him and make excuses for him. It's gross. Now that your little diversion tactic has flopped, why don't you call a spade a spade and refer to these shooters for what they are, terrorists?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Typical deflection and whataboutism

Trump is a rapist, he raped Ivana and he has a long friendship with Epstein and a long list of accusations against him including a sealed case from a child he raped, he himself has talked about grabbing women by their 'pussies'. He is an abuser yet you still love him and make excuses for him. It's gross. Now that your little diversion tactic has flopped, why don't you call a spade a spade and refer to these shooters for what they are, terrorists?

The outrage mob have spent the last 3 years making up stories to try and remove him, if there was any proof he was a rapist, they would have had him by now. The fact he's still president tells us they have nothing on him but made up bull.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

The outrage mob have spent the last 3 years making up stories to try and remove him, if there was any proof he was a rapist, they would have had him by now. The fact he's still president tells us they have nothing on him but made up bull.

How very naive and idealistic of you but sadly that's not how the real world works.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

The outrage mob have spent the last 3 years making up stories to try and remove him, if there was any proof he was a rapist, they would have had him by now. The fact he's still president tells us they have nothing on him but made up bull.

Is this really an argument you feel is valid? The child that claimed (credibly) she was raped by him, also said it was Trump and Epstein, and we now know that's been given even more credibility with recent news events regarding Epstein and Trumps private parties.

We can look closer to home with saville; power forces people into silence, and Trumps army of litigators can easily shut people down, as does the ability to pay people to stay quiet - which incidentally, he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator on a case where his partner is currently in prison for paying people to keep quiet.

If we learned anything from Mueller, it's that a sitting president can't be charged with a crime, so that argument falls away rather weakly when held up to any kind of scrutiny.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Is this really an argument you feel is valid? The child that claimed (credibly) she was raped by him, also said it was Trump and Epstein, and we now know that's been given even more credibility with recent news events regarding Epstein and Trumps private parties.

We can look closer to home with saville; power forces people into silence, and Trumps army of litigators can easily shut people down, as does the ability to pay people to stay quiet - which incidentally, he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator on a case where his partner is currently in prison for paying people to keep quiet.

If we learned anything from Mueller, it's that a sitting president can't be charged with a crime, so that argument falls away rather weakly when held up to any kind of scrutiny.

Nobody in the media was questioning Saville while he was alive, they all knew though. Maybe that's why he got away with it. Whereas the media have accusd investigated and hounded Trump every single day since he said "I'm running for President." The day before that, they didn't care about him.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Nobody in the media was questioning Saville while he was alive, they all knew though. Maybe that's why he got away with it. Whereas the media have accusd investigated and hounded Trump every single day since he said "I'm running for President." The day before that, they didn't care about him.

People most definitely were questioning saville though? You mean to say, that if you or I were eligible to run for president, our private lives wouldn't instantly face more scrutiny the day after we declared?

It's not a Trump phenomenon; Obama was hounded as a Kenyan Muslim by pepe the frog loving, 4chan, far right weirdo's, who pretended Hillary had dementia and was minutes from death. The media haven't accused Trump, it was accusers and his own words that put him under further investigation. If anything, the media were a bit derelict in their investigations of Trump because he was a ratings, and money winner for them.