[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, I mean it's pretty ****ing obvious that Mental health issues + Access to guns is not going to end well

same as that one shooter in Norway, Utoya

Anders Breivik, also had mental health issues, paranoia, thinking he was leading an army or something like that to get rid of young politicians who support foreigners in Norway

access to guns, and also some access to a police uniform


but not going further into that, as that is offtopic from this thread but still a example of a mass shooting

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

They can issue an executive order which the next president along can revoke.

American people want guns, it's part of their constitution that they have the right to carry them. This isn't the UK, so we have no concept of why they want/need them.

No president has been able to do anything about the gun problem because while people are outraged by mass killings, they still demand the right to have them. Given that, and the fact that it would probably take 5+ generations to remove guns from circulation, the obvious thing to do is act on any red flags that appear that give warning to these potential events happening. There is plenty evidence that these nutters give notice that they are going to do something, that is what needs to be acted on .... and that is what Trump is doing ... or attempting to do

How... by doing the opposite, by allowing people with mental health issues access to guns? Do you mean by regulating the Internet. ..banning video games...what?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The internet, social media and video games are all available globally.

How come mass shootings are not happening on the same scale globally?

It's obvious that gun availability is the issue

Excellent point 2s!

[Liam-]

Also, Trump can do all the talking he wants about doing something about mental health issues, but his actions don’t match seeing as his administration and the republicans are planning even more cuts to mental health services, so he might say the right things occasionally, but he never does the right thing in practice, he’s a scam artist, always has been, always will be

[Nicky91]

Youtube video

this has exactly been a topic too 1 year ago

[Amy Jade]

I'm sick of video games and movies being blamed.

It's lazy af to just blame entertainment.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I'm sick of video games and movies being blamed.

It's lazy af to just blame entertainment.

that's why i say it's more partially to blame, but only dangerous for those who are unable to separate reality from fiction, caught up in paranoia due to being mentally ill

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What has he attempted to do about it?

This v

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Trump also called for stronger mental health laws that would help “better
identify” mentally disturbed individuals capable of mass shootings.

He proposed that new laws could ensure that individuals suffering from mental
health could “not only get treatment but when necessary, involuntary
confinement.”

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

This v

Why he revoked Obama gun check for mentally I'll?

How come those shootings are not happening around the world if things he pointed out are to blame?

[bots]

Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I'm sick of video games and movies being blamed.

It's lazy af to just blame entertainment.

Exactly. Its a smoke screen

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

Except NRA are lying.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Except NRA are lying.

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

That's false equivalence; you're equating an organisation that pays politicians to allow them to sell as many guns for as much money as possible, regardless of what the citizenry wants, to gamers and movie watchers. That's not irony, it's silliness.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

And they’re capable of doing so because of the ridiculously easy access to guns capable of killing multiple people in the space of 5 or 10 minutes

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

Not all mass shooters have facial hair, but some do. We can play this game right down to underwear and socks if we want to.

[Twosugars]

Republican crazies are coming out with their own theories

A Republican state representative in Ohio who blamed “homosexual marriage” and “recreational marijuana” – along with many of Donald Trump’s favourite targets – for gun massacres is facing calls from her own party to resign.

In a Facebook post, Candice Keller, who represents a conservative district near Dayton, where nine people were killed early on Sunday, mused about the causes of mass shootings including: family breakdown and same sex marriage, open borders, sportsmen who disrespect the flag and national anthem, the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives, a godless culture, and liberal “snowflakes”.

The Guardian

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

So all those things could contribute. ... except right wing rhetoric of course? That definately couldn't? . It would be ridiculous to suggest that? :/

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Republican crazies are coming out with their own theories


The Guardian

I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

The world according to Charles Murray. ..

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The world according to Charles Murray. ..

Never heard of him.

[Twosugars]

Perhaps now that the stable genius has spoken, and we know he knows the best words, the admin and mods here would consider a quarantine on the video games subforum?
It may reassure our trump supporting members that say Sullen Girl and Toy Soldier are not gonna detonate a nail bomb on the forum?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

Yes the evil single parents....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Also, Trump can do all the talking he wants about doing something about mental health issues, but his actions don’t match seeing as his administration and the republicans are planning even more cuts to mental health services, so he might say the right things occasionally, but he never does the right thing in practice, he’s a scam artist, always has been, always will be

He's trying to take the focus off guns as per usual. Say what you want about Obama but he atleast spoke out about gun laws and got something done

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Never heard of him.

Google is your friend.