[arista]

[Kizzy]

Never mind the hate...where did that tashe come from?!

I'm only joking ,I'll tell you where it comes from..... fascists.

[The Slim Reaper]

Jordan Peterson is a far right idol. Have you ever listened to his insane theories about the growth of cultural marxism in the 70's? He's a fcuking nutjob.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Jordan Peterson is a far right idol. Have you ever listened to his insane theories about the growth of cultural marxism in the 70's? He's a fcuking nutjob.

Jordan was fantastic on the 30mins Ch4News interview

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...terson+ch4news

[Scarlett.]

**** Jordon

[Twosugars]

That guy is a far right demagogue

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Never mind the hate...where did that tashe come from?!

I'm only joking ,I'll tell you where it comes from..... fascists.

Ironically it looks more stalinist

[GiRTh]

Darling of the intellectual dark web.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by arista

Jordan was fantastic on the 30mins Ch4News interview

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...terson+ch4news

Is that the interview where he says 'If you impeach Trump wont his supporters be mad?. I'm paraphrasing but its almost word for word what he says. From Canada but so little grasp of American politics. Some intellectual eh?

[Toy Soldier]

The danger of Peterson is that a small percentage of what he says is logically sound, and that draws people in, but then you skim away that surface and find an absolute ****ing mess underneath. He's also gotten exponentially worse since he hit the "academic mainstream". He's bought into his own hype, become increasingly arrogant (and he started out very arrogant in the first place) and leaned into the more extreme rhetoric that's made him popular with the pop-right (he is not hard right nor alt right, he's playing to the popular right; the bog standard intelligence "Yeah that sounds correct to me!!" crowd). Oh, and the incels .

He shines in debates against people who have weak arguments or aren't strong in debates because he gets them confused and flustered. When he encounters someone who can debate him effectively his voice goes up two octaves and he talks over them.

He also constantly states his own psychological theories, and those that are palatable to him, as hard fact. That's the part that makes him a really poor academic.

[Oliver_W]

He's like an "intellectual for stupid people".

I agree with pretty much everything TS said - Peterson might come out with something that I don't necessarily agree with, but makes sense. Then he goes on, and you're just like "... wait ..."
That Cathy Newman interview did him a world of good - why Channel 4 put her next to him I'll never know, even that Milo creature looked intelligent in their discussion.

Plus he sounds like Kermit.

[Toy Soldier]

There's also the issue of people being disingenuous (or somehow genuinely deluded?) about some of his interviews and hooting and celebrating something that didn't happen. I watched a video a couple of weeks ago where he was discussing feminism with two women that actually wasn't terrible. Disagreements were respectful, it was all pretty moderate on all sides, it didn't veer off into his mocking / radical nonsense, everyone made a few concessions, no one went in hard, no one got flustered, and it was all generally quite friendly. Lots of smiling and laughter and not the tense / aggressive kind. A rare gem of a Peterson interview.

....The title on YouTube was something like "Jordan Peterson UTTERLY DESTROYS two feminists and RIPS THEIR ARGUMENTS TO SHREDS!!!"

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's also the issue of people being disingenuous (or somehow genuinely deluded?) about some of his interviews and hooting and celebrating something that didn't happen. I watched a video a couple of weeks ago where he was discussing feminism with two women that actually wasn't terrible. Disagreements were respectful, it was all pretty moderate on all sides, it didn't veer off into his mocking / radical nonsense, everyone made a few concessions, no one went in hard, no one got flustered, and it was all generally quite friendly. Lots of smiling and laughter and not the tense / aggressive kind. A rare gem of a Peterson interview.

....The title on YouTube was something like "Jordan Peterson UTTERLY DESTROYS two feminists and RIPS THEIR ARGUMENTS TO SHREDS!!!"

Youtube is trash for things like that. I think it is genuine delusion - his fan who uploaded it probably thought every comeback of his was a "sick burn" or something...

[Oliver_W]

I don't really think he counts as "far right", being against Marxism is standard right wing tbh.

I admit there was about a week when I thought I liked him based on soundbites before I knew more of what he was actually saying - the "clean your room" thing is a good philosophy, but stopped clocks and all that.

Maybe I'm hungover but I found this hilarious:

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

How dare he sully kermit
Actually I really like the clean your room thing, but I think he ripped that philosophy from kon marie

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How dare he sully kermit

To be fair that was made on a site called "NotJordanPeterson" where you could type anything in and it would read it out

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Actually I really like the clean your room thing, but I think he ripped that philosophy from kon marie

Hmmmm ... ish. It's a thing which deserves to be taught widely, and their approaches and rationalizations are different enough to justify both existing separately.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair that was made on a site called "NotJordanPeterson" where you could type anything in and it would read it out


Hmmmm ... ish. It's a thing which deserves to be taught widely, and their approaches and rationalizations are different enough to justify both existing separately.

Well I'll let him off the world needs to be a bit more kermit and a bit less Jordan peterson and that's all I have to say about that.

The tidy house tidy mind theory probably preceeded both of them in fairness.