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Old 05-09-2019, 09:58 AM #801
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well the brexit party goons were the only ones ever who trolled in european parliament

if you guys wanted the EU to take you serious, well you threw that last bit of hope in the garbage bin

but trolling in european parliament was confirmation (at least for me personally) that EU is better off without you british in it

Trolling..Farage has been a breath of fresh air..his speeches especially.
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Some probably didn't realise some of the implications Joey,some just want to get out and be independant ,they all had their own reasons,I think some people think the doom and gloom stories are highly exaggerated and will kick against that, and as for those who found out what some think the implications will be have known for all of 3 years as they keep getting told what could happen,those people still want to leave as far as I can see,yes it would be better with a deal, but 3 deals were rejected by parliament ,a no deal is rejected,people are just fed up of it now and dont care how we come out, I do think the 'body bags' stories are very exaggerated and not helpful.
Reported by the guy who wrote parts of the yellowhammer report for Boris Johnson. It was written by the people that are pushing a no-deal, not by remainer scaremongers.

If potential power, fuel, and medicine shortages don't scare you as a mother, then neither should body bags, I guess.

We all have the right to choose what things we believe or what we at least believe to be important, but I can't grasp why any parent would be willing to take that risk. I'm not criticising or judging you, i'm just trying to understand.
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Some probably didn't realise some of the implications Joey,some just want to get out and be independant ,they all had their own reasons,I think some people think the doom and gloom stories are highly exaggerated and will kick against that, and as for those who found out what some think the implications will be have known for all of 3 years as they keep getting told what could happen,those people still want to leave as far as I can see,yes it would be better with a deal, but 3 deals were rejected by parliament ,a no deal is rejected,people are just fed up of it now and dont care how we come out, I do think the 'body bags' stories are very exaggerated and not helpful.


Nor it is being helpful telling people all is going to be fine after a no deal brexit too.
Without knowing what may well be the case.

A lot of billions are being spent on leaving with no deal to offset problems that will happen.
The government must know all won't be fine spending and adding more billions to the likely problems.

Would you put your own family in a place, you had no idea what it was going to be like, not knowing fully of all dangers even just possible.
Because I wouldn't, never.

I do not believe all who voted leave wanted no deal.
It was never policy of any Party elected in 2017.


I know loads of people who voted leave and still would but not wanting to,and wouldn't vote for a no deal scenario.

Anyway, you seem to think leave regardless of any consequences is necessary, even not knowing how many of those 17+ million who voted leave actually wanting no deal.
I could never risk unforeseen consequences or support anyone advocating them.
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Trolling..Farage has been a breath of fresh air..his speeches especially.
A breathe of fresh air coming straight from 1930s germany more like
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A breathe of fresh air coming straight from 1930s germany more like
So you haven't listened to any of them then.

Give them a go, they were well recieved by more people than expected.
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So you haven't listened to any of them then.

Give them a go, they were well recieved by more people than expected.
so was Hitler's party in the 30's


Farage in power of UK would be a complete nightmare, the start of world war 3, i see dictator potential in Nigel
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A breathe of fresh air coming straight from 1930s germany more like
Very true.

He wants to sell off the country including nhs, traitor and racist
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so was Hitler's party in the 30's


Farage in power of UK would be a complete nightmare, the start of world war 3, i see dictator potential in Nigel
So was blair speeches in the 90s..Maggie in the 80s...etc etc...
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another example of the lying right wing press manipulating news and reality
while the sun in england has a photo of corbyn as chicken on its front cover
the scottish version of the same rag is pushing a different take on the same events

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New motion for general election
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to an early general election has been
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another example of the lying right wing press manipulating news and reality
while the sun in england has a photo of corbyn as chicken on its front cover
the scottish version of the same rag is pushing a different take on the same events

Don't see the problem, they have different editors and a different readership

The Scottish Sun supported Scottish independence in 2014 I believe

Edit - can't find evidence of that now so might be wrong but they have supported the SNP before


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Very cynical. They should have different titles and title fonts.
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to be the shortest PM ever?
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Trolling..Farage has been a breath of fresh air..his speeches especially.
Fresh air? More like stench of bigotry
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He is a chancer not a serious politician
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Wouldn't any government that gets elected on October 15th be able to overturn the legislation to extend the exit date?

Unless the opposition is thinking that Boris Johnson is going to say Oct 15th to get the vote for the election, then change the date to after Oct 31st, which would be extraordinary.
I wouldn't put it past Boris though, he's lost all his votes so far and by proroguing the government, he's shown that he's willing to play dirty.

I also don't think there would be enough time for a new government form and try to prevent a no deal brexit, This whole election play on Boris' part seems like a distraction, one that the other parties should only indulge him in if he agrees to a delay on the exit date.
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Trolling..Farage has been a breath of fresh air..his speeches especially.
He plays on people's gullibility and he only has the corporation's interests that back him at heart.

He would also dismantile the NHS if given the opportunity for those said corporations so he can get ****ed.

He's an odious little goblin through and through.
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I wouldn't put it past Boris though, he's lost all his votes so far and by proroguing the government, he's shown that he's willing to play dirty.

I also don't think there would be enough time for a new government form and try to prevent a no deal brexit, This whole election play on Boris' part seems like a distraction, one that the other parties should only indulge him in if he agrees to a delay on the exit date.
It's a cynical game to crash out of europe when no one is looking
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The MPs already threw 'domocracy' out the door Vanessa when they didn't honour the peoples democratic vote .
The difference is though Kazanne is that Parliament doesn't have to listen to an advisory polling, especially with the fact that it was a very slim majority, and there actually was no option on there for a No Deal Brexit which I'm assuming that most of this country doesn't even want.

Where as Boris shutting down Parliament is no different from some of Putin's stuff in terms of being a dictator.
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Very true.

He wants to sell off the country including nhs, traitor and racist
I'm loving this post.

It's so true, anyone that wants to potentially put this country in financial danger is more of a traitor to this country than people not wanting to risk a no deal Brexit imo.

If people really truly care about this country then they should put their own personal issues aside and look at what the UK could be like in 20 to 30 years time if no deal Brexit happens? People can think that it's scaremongering all they like, but I'm taking experienced and intelligent people to do with finances word for what's gonna happen to this country if Brexit happens in general, than I am politicians who are trying to play with peoples emotions about the EU.
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The difference is though Kazanne is that Parliament doesn't have to listen to an advisory polling, especially with the fact that it was a very slim majority, and there actually was no option on there for a No Deal Brexit which I'm assuming that most of this country doesn't even want.

Where as Boris shutting down Parliament is no different from some of Putin's stuff in terms of being a dictator.

That's unfortunately valid in your post.

This PM is acting like a bully boy whose gone even more power mad than he was before in my view Mock.

If this was any Labour leader acting this way.
The media, and rabid Con supporters would actually be right to be denouncing him or her as dangerous to true democracy

Just as this Con PM is doing but because he's a Con, it's fine for him to act in this blackmailing, threatening and bullying fashion.
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The MPs already threw 'domocracy' out the door Vanessa when they didn't honour the peoples democratic vote .
Im all for honouring what people want. But no deal would be a disaster for everyone. I think maybe a delay is best, so we could leave with a good deal.
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