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Old 12-09-2019, 09:20 AM #11
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Parliament never used to be able to prevent an election until the FTPA and afaik pre-Brexit they never took control of the order paper and they were never able to impose policy on the country's elected government before

I was a Remainer and I still kinda wish the ref had never happened but what it did do was make me aware of the level of discontent in the country with the status quo and with 'the establishment'. I think the result should be honoured because people should see that their vote actually meant something. I also think delivering Brexit is what is most likely to allow us to move on from it and let the country 'come back together'. Even though I thought it would be better to Remain I never thought the EU was a particularly noble organisation and a lot of the criticisms about its lack of accountability are true. Being a member of it is not the be all and end all and so the damage that overturning the referendum would do to people's faith in our democracy is not a price worth paying. Sneering at Leave voters and suggesting they were tricked or lied to doesn't address the cause of the result and actually I think a lot of pretty moderate Leave voters have been radicalised by the contempt their vote is treated with which is why so many are now set on no deal.
Is there anything that remainers aren't responsible for? We've been blamed for the fact that we don't believe enough, we've been blamed for the fact we can't get a deal, we've been blamed for trying to stop a no deal, and now you're blaming remain side for radicalising so-called moderates?

I'm not suggesting people were tricked and lied to, it's what the evidence and facts say happened. Placating people to help them continue this charade that the brexit campaign told them accurate truths would be far more egregious and dishonest than levelling with them. You can't blame radicalisation on remainers, because that's ridiculous.
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