[Alf]

You can see in this thread why they use a child. Because any criticism will be met with the defence of "It's disgusting to say that about a child"

The Nazis also used a child to spread their propaganda. That child was also a girl, that girl also wore her hair in pigtails, (or whatever style of tails they're called which Greta wears her hair) just a coincidence, I'm sure.

[Ammi]

...no one is using her, she isn’t the only voice at the youth part of the summit...there were many young voices, Greta is just the most high profile, is all..so she gains the media interest...young people voicing concerns of any world issue/..environmental issue, with world leaders is not a new thing, it’s quite an obvious thing...sadly for many generations, we have taken our planet and existence for granted...whilst, creating a speed-dial for the planet and existence of future generations...why wouldn’t they scream about that...?...of course they would and they are...they’re not being used, they’re being outraged...

[bots]

What makes me laugh is that even if you don't believe in climate change anything we can do to clean up the air and water is essential for our ongoing survival. How can anyone deny that? If someone came along and took a dump on your dinner, you would soon have something to say about it, and that's basically what is happening at the moment with the likes of Trump and China cheering them on.

[Ammi]

...we scream out about ‘traditions’ as generations...of preserving them ..?...yet carelessly disregard our very existence that would enable any tradition to be preserved...how can our children understand that...I mean, they just can’t because it doesn’t make sense..and the impact on each generation will get more and more serious and crisis point...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

What makes me laugh is that even if you don't believe in climate change anything we can do to clean up the air and water is essential for our ongoing survival. How can anyone deny that? If someone came along and took a dump on your dinner, you would soon have something to say about it, and that's basically what is happening at the moment with the likes of Trump and China cheering them on.

Exactly, I don't understand the resistance some people have to it. It makes no sense

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, I don't understand the resistance some people have to it. It makes no sense

China has covered a Mega big error with Solar Panels.
But at same time has Mega Big Coal
burners in another part of China.

So all that mega Big Solar
is not valid until they Halt the Massive Coal Burners,
and they are not.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by arista

China has covered a Mega big error with Solar Panels.
But at same time has Mega Big Coal
burners in another part of China.

So all that mega Big Solar
is not valid until they Halt the Massive Coal Burners,
and they are not.

Of course, but is everyone else supposed to do nothing until China does something?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course, but is everyone else supposed to do nothing until China does something?

No of Course not.


But to this 16 year old
she has needs to go to China
and Talk with that Leader.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

You can see in this thread why they use a child. Because any criticism will be met with the defence of "It's disgusting to say that about a child"

The Nazis also used a child to spread their propaganda. That child was also a girl, that girl also wore her hair in pigtails, (or whatever style of tails they're called which Greta wears her hair) just a coincidence, I'm sure.

You're now using Dinesh D'souza, the convicted criminal and pseudo-historian for your memes?

You've used Ben Shapiro and this fool in the last few days. If you believe in truth as much as you claim, then look into the background of this charlatan.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You're now using Dinesh D'souza, the convicted criminal and pseudo-historian for your memes?

You've used Ben Shapiro and this fool in the last few days. If you believe in truth as much as you claim, then look into the background of this charlatan.

What's this, a report from Clown World?

I'm using Dinesh D'Souza and Ben Shapiro What are you talking about?

Does that mean you're using a 16 year old girl called Greta?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

What's this, a report from Clown World?

I'm using Dinesh D'Souza and Ben Shapiro What are you talking about?

Does that mean you're using a 16 year old girl called Greta?

No, you used the bs from Ben Shapiro about Nazi gun control, and now you've just recycled Dinesh.

Spoiler:

Look familiar?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No, you used the bs from Ben Shapiro about Nazi gun control, and now you've just recycled Dinesh.

Spoiler:

Look familiar?

Let's say for arguments sake I did (I didn't by the way) then what's your point?

Is your point that the Nazis didn't use children to push their propaganda, and that Dinesh is telling lies?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let's say for arguments sake I did (I didn't by the way) then what's your point?

Is your point that the Nazis didn't use children to push their propaganda, and that Dinesh is telling lies?

If you were (but of course you weren't), then you're getting information from a convicted criminal that also tries to rewrite history by claiming (incorrectly) that the nazi's were left wing. You used one of his BS points a while back because National Socialists have socialists in their name.

Dinesh lies about pretty much everything, hence why he's been to prison.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If you were (but of course you weren't), then you're getting information from a convicted criminal that also tries to rewrite history by claiming (incorrectly) that the nazi's were left wing. You used one of his BS points a while back because National Socialists have socialists in their name.

Dinesh lies about pretty much everything, hence why he's been to prison.

He went to prison because he donated too much money to a political campaign. He's a Republican.

Rosie O'Donnell committed the same crime, 5 times, she didn't go to prison. She's a democrat.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No, you used the bs from Ben Shapiro about Nazi gun control, and now you've just recycled Dinesh.

Spoiler:

Look familiar?

Omfg how stupid you can get
Nazis promoted supposed aryan race features like blond hair and blue eyes and Greta as a Swede has those features therefore she must be evil like the nazis

In other news black people must be evil bc satan is always portrayed with a dark complexion

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

You can see in this thread why they use a child. Because any criticism will be met with the defence of "It's disgusting to say that about a child"

The Nazis also used a child to spread their propaganda. That child was also a girl, that girl also wore her hair in pigtails, (or whatever style of tails they're called which Greta wears her hair) just a coincidence, I'm sure.

Deluded argument.
The issue existed before she got involved and will exist after she's gone.
If you can't argue the message let's attack the messenger huh

That's why climate change deniers like trump or banks go after the girl, so much easier.
And also so cowardly.

Bolsonaro is even attacking the catholic church now for, wait for it, being too lefty bc it dares to be concerned about the environment. You couldn't make it up.

Sad. But not surprising.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Deluded argument.
The issue existed before she got involved and will exist after she's gone.
If you can't argue the message let's attack the messenger huh

That's why climate change deniers like trump or banks go after the girl, so much easier.
And also so cowardly.

Bolsonaro is even attacking the catholic church now for, wait for it, being too left bc it dares to be concerned about the environment. You couldn't make it up.

Sad. But not surprising.

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Religions are well known for their deference and acceptance of science, whereas rational movements are generally formed around a central figure who convinces folks they know better than everyone else in spite of all the evidence

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Attenborough has been giving the same message for years.

I guess you think he is a high priest of the cult of Greta
The same for Packham and all scientists and naturalists on the telly.

Folks you've heard it here first get your tin hats on

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Attenborough has been giving the same message for years.

I guess you think he is a high priest of the cult of Greta
The same for Packham and all scientists and naturalists on the telly.

Folks you've heard it here first get your tin hats on

Are you seriously asking me to accept what BBC says, with a straight face?

Two words, Jimmy Saville.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Tell us more how this dangerous new religion operates. Name names. Expose them.
We need to know. Are tin hats enough protection against their vile propaganda?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Are you seriously asking me to accept what BBC says, with a straight face?

Two words, Jimmy Saville.

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Tell us more how this dangerous new religion operates. Name names. Expose them.
We need to know. Are tin hats enough protection against their vile propaganda?

.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Lets consider the message rather than the messenger ...
In the nazi propaganda the youth wing were not educated they were forced into believing the lies from the party.
Greta is affiliated to no party.
The depiction was a party inspired image of the perfect child...not an actual child.
Greta is an actual child.
The nazi propaganda spoke against experts and unity and called for the suffering if others.
Greta calls for those in power to listen to scientists and experts, she speaks of unity and an end to the suffering of others.
The message could not be more different, so why would anyone think for a moment the outcome will be the same?
There is no call to usurp, suppress, repress or kill, apart from the pigtails there is nothing to link these whatsoever.
If that is enough for you to disregard her and her message then that is pitiful and for me a sign that it is not Greta who has been indoctrinated.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Lets consider the message rather than the messenger ...
In the nazi propaganda the youth wing were not educated they were forced into believing the lies from the party.
Greta is affiliated to no party.
The depiction was a party inspired image of the perfect child...not an actual child.
Greta is an actual child.
The nazi propaganda spoke against experts and unity and called for the suffering if others.
Greta calls for those in power to listen to scientists and experts, she speaks of unity and an end to the suffering of others.
The message could not be more different, so why would anyone think for a moment the outcome will be the same?
There is no call to usurp, suppress, repress or kill, apart from the pigtails there is nothing to link these whatsoever.
If that is enough for you to disregard her and her message then that is pitiful and for me a sign that it is not Greta who has been indoctrinated.

You're talking to people that believed a red bus.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You're talking to people that believed a red bus.

That's true :/