[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do you have a proposal as to how it can be resolved to protect all?

Why should she? Did she break it? Why should remainers think up solutions for something they disagree on?

It's the leavers who broke it so let them fix it. After all it was all going to be so easy

[jet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Why should she? Did she break it? Why should remainers think up solutions for something they disagree on?

It's the leavers who broke it so let them fix it. After all it was all going to be so easy

But...but, I thought the point was that the leavers were all stupid and clueless, and you expect them to fix it!
Surely all you remainers who lord it over the poor deluded ones can come up with something to save them. You all post about the future disasters with such certainty and knowledge, educating the silly little Brexiters. I'm sure even Boris would appreciate your pearls of wisdom about the doom and gloom ahead. Have any of you contacted him yet?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

But...but, I thought the point was that the leavers were all stupid and clueless, and you expect them to fix it!
Surely all you remainers who lord it over the poor deluded ones can come up with something to save them. You all post about the future disasters with such certainty and knowledge, educating the silly little Brexiters. I'm sure even Boris would appreciate your pearls of wisdom about the doom and gloom ahead. Have any of you contacted him yet?

The leavers own this ****show and will own it for eternity.
They've been warned but apparently it was project fear. Ok then.
No good asking for advice now. The people have spoken.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The leavers own this ****show and will own it for eternity.
They've been warned but apparently it was project fear. Ok then.
No good asking for advice now. The people have spoken.

There's not much to do when we live in an age of stupidity, really.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

But...but, I thought the point was that the leavers were all stupid and clueless, and you expect them to fix it!
Surely all you remainers who lord it over the poor deluded ones can come up with something to save them. You all post about the future disasters with such certainty and knowledge, educating the silly little Brexiters. I'm sure even Boris would appreciate your pearls of wisdom about the doom and gloom ahead. Have any of you contacted him yet?

Hardline Leavers tend to live in a fantasy land where everything will be okay because, in their minds, Britain is still a superpower and we still have an empire and the world will come running to us as soon as we leave to beg for our help because the planet will collapse without us. In truth we are a small country who is destined to become the US' bitch because those leavers are too arrogant to realise that they're leaving a union in which they could effect change to become reliant on the US when it's currently run by an orange mad man. Too arrogant to realise the UK's actual standing in the world and gullible enough to believe what a snake oil salesman is pitched to them about Brexit.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jet

But...but, I thought the point was that the leavers were all stupid and clueless, and you expect them to fix it!
Surely all you remainers who lord it over the poor deluded ones can come up with something to save them. You all post about the future disasters with such certainty and knowledge, educating the silly little Brexiters. I'm sure even Boris would appreciate your pearls of wisdom about the doom and gloom ahead. Have any of you contacted him yet?

Well yes, but they all vote against remaining in the European Union.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

But...but, I thought the point was that the leavers were all stupid and clueless, and you expect them to fix it!
Surely all you remainers who lord it over the poor deluded ones can come up with something to save them. You all post about the future disasters with such certainty and knowledge, educating the silly little Brexiters. I'm sure even Boris would appreciate your pearls of wisdom about the doom and gloom ahead. Have any of you contacted him yet?

Here's a pearl, forward this for me.... don't feck us over for a deal with trump!!
There you are..You're welcome.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Here's a pearl, forward this for me.... don't feck us over for a deal with trump!!
There you are..You're welcome.

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

Everything included in project fear mk 1, is now being defended as what leavers wanted all along.

[The Slim Reaper]

One for Alf, I know he cited the abuse of our fishing industries as a reason for wanting to leave.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Everything included in project fear mk 1, is now being defended as what leavers wanted all along.

You certainly paint everyone with broad brush strokes, don't you?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

You certainly paint everyone with broad brush strokes, don't you?

Not really, a no-deal was project fear, but now it's "we must leave on 31st regardless" Farage pushed a norway model as an example.

There is no glorious brexit that was promised. Where are all these countries begging us for deals because WWII? You didn't even try to address it, you made it about me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

You certainly paint everyone with broad brush strokes, don't you?

Project fear is in itself a broad brush stroke......

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

Should I read ones that perpetuate buzz words like 'project fear' like you?...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Should I read ones that perpetuate buzz words like 'project fear' like you?...

I read those buzz words here only, used as a stick to beat those 'clueless' leavers with.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

I read those buzz words here only, used as a stick to beat those 'clueless' leavers with.

I hate to suggest you might be perpetuating falsehoods but the term project fear is widely used .. not only on here, I could find you some direct quotes from mps if you'd like?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

I read those buzz words here only, used as a stick to beat those 'clueless' leavers with.

Here only? Where were you during the referendum campaign? It was promised everything would be easy. All concerns expressed by remainers have been branded as project fear.
Ok then. If they know better let them do it.
But they cant bc reality gets in the way. And so they get angry and lash out at remainers. Again.
Too late.

Dont blame remainers bc your dream was just that, only a dream. Take responsibility for your actions.

[lime]

Originally Posted by jet

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

Ah Jet ..you were nearly there....


You just missed out on "fake news" "libtards Tears".


Nobody ..I repeat nobody think's Brexit is the end of the world.

But to deny what it does to NI.

Maybe Arlene you should step away ..and take a walk.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

How can you claim not to want no deal when you are painting all the analysts whose reputations rely on being correct to be apart of some 'biased media'?

When someone whose career revolves around making accurate predictions about the state of the economy warns against a disaster and when that view is shared among most economic experts from around the world, you listen to what they have to say. They know more than any of us and it's nothing but arrogance to brush their warnings aside because it's not something you want to hear. Are the government in on it too? Is the Yellowhammer report just part of 'Project Fear' too?

Everything that's come to pass so far has been predicted since 2016. Our economy is lurching every time No Deal becomes more of a possibility every expert is pretty much warning against the same thing. I like to live in the real world, I like to know what's coming so I can try to prepare for it, this isn't the work of biased media, all the 'doom and gloom' predictions will come to pass and no amount of hoping the grass is greener on the other side will change that.

The only way we'll make it through Brexit without triggering another recessions or worse, is by going with a deal and even that has it's own pitfalls considering the border situation.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How can you claim not to want no deal when you are painting all the analysts whose reputations rely on being correct to be apart of some 'biased media'?

When someone whose career revolves around making accurate predictions about the state of the economy warns against a disaster and when that view is shared among most economic experts from around the world, you listen to what they have to say. They know more than any of us and it's nothing but arrogance to brush their warnings aside because it's not something you want to hear. Are the government in on it too? Is the Yellowhammer report just part of 'Project Fear' too?

Everything that's come to pass so far has been predicted since 2016. Our economy is lurching every time No Deal becomes more of a possibility every expert is pretty much warning against the same thing. I like to live in the real world, I like to know what's coming so I can try to prepare for it, this isn't the work of biased media, all the 'doom and gloom' predictions will come to pass and no amount of hoping the grass is greener on the other side will change that.

The only way we'll make it through Brexit without triggering another recessions or worse, is by going with a deal and even that has it's own pitfalls considering the border situation.

I have read the analysts predictions for remaining, and the analysts case for leaving. They all claim to be experts, yet both sides sound convincing and plausible. Who is right and who is wrong? I think it all might fall in the middle.

I make a point of reading a wide variety of newspapers (not the out and out tabloids though!) and watching a wide variety of programmes. If you just read papers that align with your views you won't get any balance, and it appears you just read the doom merchants take on it all.
That's why I am not strongly on one side or the other, more like 'wait and see'.
Whatever will happen will happen and all the hand wringing in the world won't change a thing.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

I have read the analysts predictions for remaining, and the analysts predictions for leaving. They all claim to be experts, yet both sides sound convincing and plausible. Who is right and who is wrong? I think it all might fall in the middle.

I make a point of reading a wide variety of newspapers (not the out and out tabloids though!) and watching a wide variety of programmes. If you just read papers that align with your views you won't get any balance, and it appears you just read the doom merchants take on it all.
That's why I am not strongly on one side or the other, more like 'wait and see'.
Whatever will happen will happen and all the hand wringing in the world won't change a thing.

You assume that I think the way I do because I have a confirmation bias which is just not realistic. I don't have any kind of allegiance to one news source or the other. The reason why I hold analytical view points in high esteem is because there's so many all over the world that are saying the same thing and when that view is reinforced by the Yellowhammer report and so far, they have no been wrong once.

I'm certainly not wringing my hands, my viewpoint has always been the same, you can't run from reality and hoping for the best without preparing for the worst is pointless.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

I have read the analysts predictions for remaining, and the analysts case for leaving. They all claim to be experts, yet both sides sound convincing and plausible. Who is right and who is wrong? I think it all might fall in the middle.

If you have genuinely read any analysts predicting good things about a no-deal Brexit then by all means PLEASE post them here, because it's starting to become a very real - and very scary - prospect and we could all do with some reassurance.

If you haven't actually read any then stop giving people false hope .