[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Shutting down the debate with sarcasm now?

Not at all kizzy

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jet

But...but, I thought the point was that the leavers were all stupid and clueless, and you expect them to fix it!
Surely all you remainers who lord it over the poor deluded ones can come up with something to save them. You all post about the future disasters with such certainty and knowledge, educating the silly little Brexiters. I'm sure even Boris would appreciate your pearls of wisdom about the doom and gloom ahead. Have any of you contacted him yet?

Well yes, but they all vote against remaining in the European Union.

[lime]

I still can't get my head around the fact that those with an a opinion and vote have no idea about the EU or Ireland.

Cummings wants no deal..and that's clear by his latest proposal...It gives the DUP a recurent opporunity to decide the future of NI without being repersentavie of those in NI
Cummings knew this wouldn't fly

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lime

I still can't get my head around the fact that those with an a opinion and vote have no idea about the EU or Ireland.

Cummings wants no deal..and that's clear by his latest proposal...It gives the DUP a recurent opporunity to decide the future of NI without being repersentavie of those in NI
Cummings knew this wouldn't fly

Did you expect unionists to care about NI?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

But...but, I thought the point was that the leavers were all stupid and clueless, and you expect them to fix it!
Surely all you remainers who lord it over the poor deluded ones can come up with something to save them. You all post about the future disasters with such certainty and knowledge, educating the silly little Brexiters. I'm sure even Boris would appreciate your pearls of wisdom about the doom and gloom ahead. Have any of you contacted him yet?

Here's a pearl, forward this for me.... don't feck us over for a deal with trump!!
There you are..You're welcome.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am sure kizzy doesn’t need you to respond to a question put directly to her

Btw the only one screeching here is you, I asked a polite question of kizzy and you responded by screeching at me, then you have the nerve to say I’m shutting down ‘debate’

She doesn't need me to respond but I hate the tactics you resorted to. How am I shutting down debate by responding to you basically saying that Kizzy can't criticise a government unless she, a private citizen, can solve a political crisis that lifelong politicians can't? That's the definition of shutdown tactics.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If only there were more of us we might not be on this merry go round of abuse

Jobs and livelihoods are at stake, Cherie. People's lives will be ruined if Boris tries to force No Deal. Even the government's own Yellowhammer report said as much and we've only seen the best case scenario of that report, there are worse ones yet to be revealed. With that in mind, I can't be all like 'aw, poor Brexiters are upset' when it's likely my own livelihood at stake as well as the livelihoods of plenty of people throughout the UK. Brexiters can get the **** over being told some uncomfortable truths but lives will be ruined by a no deal Brexit.

Enlightened centrism gets us nowhere.

[Alf]

It ain't been a picnic inside the EU.

Jobs and livelihoods have always been at stake. People's lives have always been ruined.

Unless you have proof it's all been perfect?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Here's a pearl, forward this for me.... don't feck us over for a deal with trump!!
There you are..You're welcome.

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

It ain't been a picnic inside the EU.

Jobs and livelihoods have always been at stake. People's lives have always been ruined.

Unless you have proof it's all been perfect?

What's been the biggest downside in relation to lives and jobs from being in the EU?

[lime]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did you expect unionists to care about NI?

No

But listening to the British in the Uk I thought they would have a basic understanding of Ireland ..sadly not.

There is an ich in the air here in Irleand that I can't explain.

The false repersentation of us in the the British tabloids is viewed with shock Globally

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

Everything included in project fear mk 1, is now being defended as what leavers wanted all along.

[The Slim Reaper]

One for Alf, I know he cited the abuse of our fishing industries as a reason for wanting to leave.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

Should I read ones that perpetuate buzz words like 'project fear' like you?...

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Everything included in project fear mk 1, is now being defended as what leavers wanted all along.

You certainly paint everyone with broad brush strokes, don't you?

[lime]

Originally Posted by jet

Project fear mark 2.

I certainly don't want a no deal, but neither do I buy into the hysteria of the dire consequences of Brexit. You'd think it was the end of the world. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on your chosen newspapers and biased media and read a wider variety of opinions instead of just those that reinforce your views of doom and gloom.

Ah Jet ..you were nearly there....


You just missed out on "fake news" "libtards Tears".


Nobody ..I repeat nobody think's Brexit is the end of the world.

But to deny what it does to NI.

Maybe Arlene you should step away ..and take a walk.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lime

No

But listening to the British in the Uk I thought they would have a basic understanding of Ireland ..sadly not.

There is an ich in the air here in Irleand that I can't explain.

The false repersentation of us in the the British tabloids is viewed with shock Globally

The English conservative government have never liked you...they don't want anyone to understand or sympathise with you. Why are you surprised they'll do down their own granny for the right wing demigods.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

You certainly paint everyone with broad brush strokes, don't you?

Not really, a no-deal was project fear, but now it's "we must leave on 31st regardless" Farage pushed a norway model as an example.

There is no glorious brexit that was promised. Where are all these countries begging us for deals because WWII? You didn't even try to address it, you made it about me.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Should I read ones that perpetuate buzz words like 'project fear' like you?...

I read those buzz words here only, used as a stick to beat those 'clueless' leavers with.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

I read those buzz words here only, used as a stick to beat those 'clueless' leavers with.

I hate to suggest you might be perpetuating falsehoods but the term project fear is widely used .. not only on here, I could find you some direct quotes from mps if you'd like?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

You certainly paint everyone with broad brush strokes, don't you?

Project fear is in itself a broad brush stroke......

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

I read those buzz words here only, used as a stick to beat those 'clueless' leavers with.

Here only? Where were you during the referendum campaign? It was promised everything would be easy. All concerns expressed by remainers have been branded as project fear.
Ok then. If they know better let them do it.
But they cant bc reality gets in the way. And so they get angry and lash out at remainers. Again.
Too late.

Dont blame remainers bc your dream was just that, only a dream. Take responsibility for your actions.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not really, a no-deal was project fear, but now it's "we must leave on 31st regardless" Farage pushed a norway model as an example.

There is no glorious brexit that was promised. Where are all these countries begging us for deals because WWII? You didn't even try to address it, you made it about me.

For me personally there is no point in addressing anything in any depth here regarding Brexit as everyone's opinions are entrenched and the same negative and depressing views are repeated ad nauseum. The few leavers that are still here have the hearts of lions to put up with being vilified and sneered at,fair play to them!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I hate to suggest you might be perpetuating falsehoods but the term project fear is widely used .. not only on here, I could find you some direct quotes from mps if you'd like?

Well, I am of the impression I just heard it here, maybe because its mentioned so often. You needn't look for quotes, I'll take your word on it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lime

I still can't get my head around the fact that those with an a opinion and vote have no idea about the EU or Ireland.

Cummings wants no deal..and that's clear by his latest proposal...It gives the DUP a recurent opporunity to decide the future of NI without being repersentavie of those in NI
Cummings knew this wouldn't fly

The DUP were fast to go on TV News and Radio
to back it.
So many say let Ireland Change their borders