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Stanley Kubrick was an auteur but he will forever be an absolute prick for what he did to Shelley Duvall.

I find it difficult to appreciate his work when he essentially drove someone in his care to madness.
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Stanley Kubrick was an auteur but he will forever be an absolute prick for what he did to Shelley Duvall.

I find it difficult to appreciate his work when he essentially drove someone in his care to madness.
Where's the evidence for that?
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what was that about?
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Where's the evidence for that?
A lot of the cast have acknowledged Stanley Kubrick's behaviour during the filming of The Shining and there's plenty of pieces that go into the history of that film.

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what was that about?
Basically during the (very long) shoot for The Shining, Stanley Kubrick bullied Shelley Duvall relentlessly and isolated her from the cast and crew to make sure no one could comfort her or help her. He belittled her talents repeatedly, forced her to do over a hundred takes for shots for no good reason and was generally a sociopathic piece of **** towards her. A lot of her acting in that film isn't believed to be acting but her literally having breakdowns under the stress Kubrick heaped on her. She legitimately had to keep bottles of water close by at all times because her tears left her dehydrated because she was forced to cry for twelve hours a day. I'm pretty sure there's other stuff that I'm forgetting but he was generally evil towards her which is strange because he chose to cast her against Jack Nicholson's advice who wanted Jessica Lange to be cast instead. I believe it was because Kubrick probably knew he couldn't have done to Lange what he did to Duvall.

She never really acted much after that film was done and the experience has been attributed to driving her off the edge as she suffers from mental issues now.

I can't really appreciate his talent in the light of what he did to Shelley Duvall.
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Basically during the (very long) shoot for The Shining, Stanley Kubrick bullied Shelley Duvall relentlessly and isolated her from the cast and crew to make sure no one could comfort her or help her. He belittled her talents repeatedly, forced her to do over a hundred takes for shots for no good reason and was generally a sociopathic piece of **** towards her. A lot of her acting in that film isn't believed to be acting but her literally having breakdowns under the stress Kubrick heaped on her. She legitimately had to keep bottles of water close by at all times because her tears left her dehydrated because she was forced to cry for twelve hours a day. I'm pretty sure there's other stuff that I'm forgetting but he was generally evil towards her which is strange because he chose to cast her against Jack Nicholson's advice who wanted Jessica Lange to be cast instead. I believe it was because Kubrick probably knew he couldn't have done to Lange what he did to Duvall.

She never really acted much after that film was done and the experience has been attributed to driving her off the edge as she suffers from mental issues now.

I can't really appreciate his talent in the light of what he did to Shelley Duvall.
I never heard that before, how awful if true. I must do a bit of reading up on it
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I never heard that before, how awful if true. I must do a bit of reading up on it
It is fascinating although difficult to read at some points, from what I read he pretty much manipulated the crew into having no sympathy for her and blaming her for the film's problems during the shoot. Quite typical behaviour for an abuser.
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A lot of the cast have acknowledged Stanley Kubrick's behaviour during the filming of The Shining and there's plenty of pieces that go into the history of that film.



Basically during the (very long) shoot for The Shining, Stanley Kubrick bullied Shelley Duvall relentlessly and isolated her from the cast and crew to make sure no one could comfort her or help her. He belittled her talents repeatedly, forced her to do over a hundred takes for shots for no good reason and was generally a sociopathic piece of **** towards her. A lot of her acting in that film isn't believed to be acting but her literally having breakdowns under the stress Kubrick heaped on her. She legitimately had to keep bottles of water close by at all times because her tears left her dehydrated because she was forced to cry for twelve hours a day. I'm pretty sure there's other stuff that I'm forgetting but he was generally evil towards her which is strange because he chose to cast her against Jack Nicholson's advice who wanted Jessica Lange to be cast instead. I believe it was because Kubrick probably knew he couldn't have done to Lange what he did to Duvall.

She never really acted much after that film was done and the experience has been attributed to driving her off the edge as she suffers from mental issues now.

I can't really appreciate his talent in the light of what he did to Shelley Duvall.

...one of the scenes filmed was a ‘record breaking scene..’...for any known dialogue scene.../...it had over 120 takes with her swinging a bat at Jack Nicholson...it was reported that she was sobbing hysterically between the takes...with Kubrick telling others not to speak to her...and then he finally got the ‘reality’ of his shot...when he emotionally drained her and isolated her from any comfort...
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...having just watched Avengers: Endgame...I would completely disagree with him, there is a huge depth to it, so many threads running through it and a huge stretch of emotions throughout...it stretches you from one side of the emotional plain to the other...it’s surely a movie that for me would require a few watches to completely absorb...that wouldn’t be a definition of any kind of ‘shallow’ movie...
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