[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

But they do like and care about the sector they work in. It's not about Trump, and viewing every policy criticism of Johnson/Trump/Tories as "well, they just don't like him/them" means that no matter what the facts, you are never open to changing your mind or viewing things on their merits.

When we criticise children in cages, it's not because it's Trump, it' because it's abhorrent. When we criticise what the tories have inflicted on this country for 9 years, it's not because of Johnson or Raab, it's because they are hurting and killing people.

We don't like them because of what they've done, it's not that we don't like what they've done, because we don't like them.

I am sure most of them love what they do,and the NHS is second to none, but it does waste a lot of money especially from the fat cats at the top, I simply dont think it will ever be sold off by anyone, and I dont think the government are fully to blame ,I am quite distrusting of people in general so its really hard to choose a side you can 100% get behind,Im just going by my instincts at the moment. They are probably worried about the effects of Brexit,but it cant get any worse than it already is, I really dont think much will change.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am sure most of them love what they do,and the NHS is second to none, but it does waste a lot of money especially from the fat cats at the top, I simply dont think it will ever be sold off by anyone, and I dont think the government are fully to blame ,I am quite distrusting of people in general so its really hard to choose a side you can 100% get behind,Im just going by my instincts at the moment. They are probably worried about the effects of Brexit,but it cant get any worse than it already is, I really dont think much will change.

Take brexit out of the equation, it's their austerity which has already damaged it beyond anything anyone could have seen coming. I've even posted vids to you of themselves saying they don't care about it, and you still trust them after what they've done? Fair enough, it's your vote.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by kazanne

i am sure most of them love what they do,and the nhs is second to none, but it does waste a lot of money especially from the fat cats at the top, i simply dont think it will ever be sold off by anyone, and i dont think the government are fully to blame ,i am quite distrusting of people in general so its really hard to choose a side you can 100% get behind,im just going by my instincts at the moment. They are probably worried about the effects of brexit,but it cant get any worse than it already is, i really dont think much will change.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Cherie]

Maybe they want to lose and want Corbyn to take on Brexit

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Maybe they want to lose and want Corbyn to take on Brexit

Corbyn's Brexit is staying in.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Corbyn's Brexit is staying in.

Its a peoples vote on his brand new deal Arista

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its a peoples vote on his brand new deal Arista

Yes Brand new staying in Customs Union
and Single market


Utter waste of time

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Maybe they want to lose and want Corbyn to take on Brexit

It's honestly something that I'm seriously considering to be the case. Nothing has destroyed the tories more than Brexit and it wouldn't be surprising if they want to give up the reigns so that they can be the opposition and go on the attack to undermine the labour government in the hopes that Brexit would wreck them like it did their own party.

Let someone handle the messiness of Brexit (and the backlash) and then return to take power on a gilded faux gold horse when all is said and done.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

They'll believe the liar who is spinning a prettier fairy tale.

I have no faith in the voting public at this point, they're all too used to voting against their own interests to please their overlords by getting the rich a tax break or ten.