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Old 08-11-2019, 11:11 AM #1
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I asked an open question, not limited to death threats ok?

I want to know what all these people scared of a corbyn win in election think he's going to do to Jews. Why the hysteria?
What in a democratic country with free press and independent judiciary and the legislative can happen to them?
As we've seen with trump who is a racist and white supremacist, people he doesnt like in america carry on living there as before.
Not that I think corbyn is antisemitic. But even if he was?
We had instances of the actual far right governing in Europe like a brief spell in Austria and I dont remember Austrian jews having to emigrate from the country or being persecuted by the state.
I'd understand distaste and outrage. But it goes beyond that here. Theres a narrative of "we will have to emigrate".
Could somebody explain that to me. Maybe I missed something and I'd like to understand.
It's pretty obvious what happens when you have a leader of a party that condones particular behaviour or is an active participant.

The rise in antisemitism across europe has been well reported and I as a non jew detailed it on this very forum ... but everyone chose to ignore it ... not a single comment. Why? because they know there is an issue with the labour party and to acknowledge it also acknowledges that it is an issue in the political party they support. That I find disgusting, and I am sure not going to sugar coat it.

In your earlier post you quite clearly implied there was a big difference between someone getting death threats, and someone not ... that again, is WRONG.
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It's pretty obvious what happens when you have a leader of a party that condones particular behaviour or is an active participant.

The rise in antisemitism across europe has been well reported and I as a non jew detailed it on this very forum ... but everyone chose to ignore it ... not a single comment. Why? because they know there is an issue with the labour party and to acknowledge it also acknowledges that it is an issue in the political party they support. That I find disgusting, and I am sure not going to sugar coat it.

In your earlier post you quite clearly implied there was a big difference between someone getting death threats, and someone not ... that again, is WRONG.
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It's pretty obvious what happens when you have a leader of a party that condones particular behaviour or is an active participant.

The rise in antisemitism across europe has been well reported and I as a non jew detailed it on this very forum ... but everyone chose to ignore it ... not a single comment. Why? because they know there is an issue with the labour party and to acknowledge it also acknowledges that it is an issue in the political party they support. That I find disgusting, and I am sure not going to sugar coat it.

In your earlier post you quite clearly implied there was a big difference between someone getting death threats, and someone not ... that again, is WRONG.
I didnt imply anything.
And you're not the only one posting about antisemitism so get off your high horse.
Many here discussed the issue.
As far as remember all labour supporters here condemned it and called for the current enquiry to provide recommendations.
But I will not be brow beaten by you from asking questions and debating the details.

And the bolded bit: it is not obvious to me. Tell me what happens in a democratic country like the UK

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It's pretty obvious what happens when you have a leader of a party that condones particular behaviour or is an active participant.

The rise in antisemitism across europe has been well reported and I as a non jew detailed it on this very forum ... but everyone chose to ignore it ... not a single comment. Why? because they know there is an issue with the labour party and to acknowledge it also acknowledges that it is an issue in the political party they support. That I find disgusting, and I am sure not going to sugar coat it.

In your earlier post you quite clearly implied there was a big difference between someone getting death threats, and someone not ... that again, is WRONG.
And where is the evidence he condones the behaviour?....The rise in antisemitism is well documented as deriving from the far right in Europe and in the UK there is evidence in both major parties. Labour are the only party to acknowledge this, it has been identified and addressed should NOT be used as a stick it beat labour supporters with as you appear to be doing here.
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Former Labour Party employees have spoken out publicly on the BBC’s flagship investigative documentary programme, Panorama, to reveal Jeremy Corbyn’s personal meddling in disciplinary cases relating to antisemitism.
The documentary lays bare the scale of the interference by agents of Mr Corbyn in the process. The programme is peppered with unconvincing denials from Labour’s press team.

https://antisemitism.uk/jeremy-corby...it-for-office/
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Oh the knives are out for sure.
what does that even mean, you asked for evidence, if you troubled yourself to open the link the programme aired in July 2019 long before any whiff of an election. I mean Jewish members leaving the party should be enough but...
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what does that even mean, you asked for evidence, if you troubled yourself to open the link the programme aired in July 2019 long before any whiff of an election. I mean Jewish members leaving the party should be enough but...
I remember the accusations the first time and commented accordingly at the time. I don't need your accusatory input thank you cherie. The knives are out as this is being revisited almost a year on despite the changes to the investegatative process.
It's a muck raking election stunt..using this topic for that is exploiting the issue.
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I remember the accusations the first time and commented accordingly at the time. I don't need your accusatory input thank you cherie. The knives are out as this is being revisited almost a year on despite the changes to the investegatative process.
It's a muck raking election stunt..using this topic for that is exploiting the issue.
what kind of dictatorship are you trying to run here kizzy, I will post if I like, whether you like it or not is not my concern.
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