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Old 15-12-2019, 02:59 PM #76
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Bollox and you know it .


Boris is gonna revive the NHS
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well it seems that most of england and wales think that the tories have done a great job and have backed them to the hilt for another 5 years
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well it seems that most of england and wales think that the tories have done a great job and have backed them to the hilt for another 5 years


I think they were all scared of what Corbyn brought to the table .. towns that had voted Labour for the last 83 years going all out to vote for Boris .

Nuff said .


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I think they were all scared of what Corbyn brought to the table .. towns that had voted Labour for the last 83 years going all out to vote for Boris .

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Boris said he’d invest in the NHS before the election and he was even more determined to drastically improve things AFTER the win .... he could have simply kept quiet !!

Boris has only been in charge a few weeks - it’s not his fault what’s happened in the past .. especially given the number of hospital cases has seemingly trebled over recent years ... classic demand outweighing supply .


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I think they were all scared of what Corbyn brought to the table .. towns that had voted Labour for the last 83 years going all out to vote for Boris .

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Boris said he’d invest in the NHS before the election and he was even more determined to drastically improve things AFTER the win .... he could have simply kept quiet !!
Boris has said many things, all of them contradictory both before and after the election. He may as well have kept quiet given the non-information he's been providing.
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Boris has said many things, all of them contradictory both before and after the election. He may as well have kept quiet given the non-information he's been providing.
all things said by Boris are contradictory?

are you sure?
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"many things"

But keep up the nitpicking and dodging the substantial questions you ask of others.
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"many things"

But keep up the nitpicking and dodging the substantial questions you ask of others.
then dont exaggerate and make statements without actual facts


"Boris has said many things ALL of them contradictory"

this is clearly an exaggeration and gives no examples
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well it seems that most of england and wales think that the tories have done a great job and have backed them to the hilt for another 5 years
So what stopped you voting for them too?
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If Boris revives the NHS I will vote tory at the next election ...how bout that!!
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If Boris revives the NHS I will vote tory at the next election ...how bout that!!
Lots of labour members voted Tory. No Biggie
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Any labour member who votes tory should hand their badge in imo
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Well you are right but they weren't lead by Boris,at least give him a chance, if he's crap he can be kicked out,no one knows what sort of PM he will be now,his hands were kind of tied before over Brexit, lets just see what happens.
I'm hoping that Boris will be good (or at least better than I'm thinking) I honestly don't want the UK to be struggling like this with the NHS and the rise in homelessness, so if he can fix those problems then great.

However there will be MP's that were from the two previous Administrations that will be apart of Boris's Administration which tbh scares the crap out of me as those people have helped divide this country.
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people had the right to vote for another party at FOUR elections and each time they rejected labour. I think its best to put it that way so that it puts it in the correct perspective. Labour have been rejected. They need to shake it up if they want to ever be elected again. Moaning from the sidelines doesn't achieve anything.
Tbf every time an Election comes around the Media rile up the masses against the opposition at every opportunity.

I mean look at the **** that they printed about Ed Miliband and his Father so that the public would vote for David Cameron.

And don't get me started on the slander towards Corbyn.

And tbh my way was also the correct perspective, the Tories have had 9 years to run this country properly before Boris and they've failed, they're just incredibly lucky that the Media give them a help in hand, and that Labour have been infighting.
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Tbf every time an Election comes around the Media rile up the masses against the opposition at every opportunity.

I mean look at the **** that they printed about Ed Miliband and his Father so that the public would vote for David Cameron.

And don't get me started on the slander towards Corbyn.

And tbh my way was also the correct perspective, the Tories have had 9 years to run this country properly before Boris and they've failed, they're just incredibly lucky that the Media give them a help in hand, and that Labour have been infighting.
It was ridiculous when Ed miliband was labour leader as nobody ever listened to him , instead he got mocked for how he ate a sandwich and people made fun of his voice and face . Poor guy never had a chance.



Again anyone would think it was a beauty contest instead of politics, and even if it was about looks Cameron loses in that department same with Johnson so no idea why they're so popular .

Cameron looks like the marshmallow boy from Ghostbusters & Johnson looks like a pig .
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Tbf every time an Election comes around the Media rile up the masses against the opposition at every opportunity.

I mean look at the **** that they printed about Ed Miliband and his Father so that the public would vote for David Cameron.

And don't get me started on the slander towards Corbyn.

And tbh my way was also the correct perspective, the Tories have had 9 years to run this country properly before Boris and they've failed, they're just incredibly lucky that the Media give them a help in hand, and that Labour have been infighting.
How do you run a country properly?
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It was ridiculous when Ed miliband was labour leader as nobody ever listened to him , instead he got mocked for how he ate a sandwich and people made fun of his voice and face . Poor guy never had a chance.



Again anyone would think it was a beauty contest instead of politics, and even if it was about looks Cameron loses in that department same with Johnson so no idea why they're so popular .

Cameron looks like the marshmallow boy from Ghostbusters & Johnson looks like a pig .
Your whole post is about how ridiculous and wrong it is to criticise people over just their looks... then I got to your last line. Can't argue with well thought out political argument like that.
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Your whole post is about how ridiculous and wrong it is to criticise people over just their looks... then I got to your last line. Can't argue with well thought out political argument like that.
Because it's tiresome how labour MPs get criticised for their looks & fashion , Jeremy Corbyn was compared to steptoe

My point is if looks are that important then why do the Tories get let off the hook for theirs ?? . Johnson & Cameron are NO oil paintings.
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I think this thread shows the differences pretty well
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Because it's tiresome how labour MPs get criticised for their looks & fashion , Jeremy Corbyn was compared to steptoe

My point is if looks are that important then why do the Tories get let off the hook for theirs ?? . Johnson & Cameron are NO oil paintings.

Politics was once described to me by a Conservative MP as, showbusiness for ugly people. No party gets off lightly, they're all criticised for everything from what they eat and drink to what they wear to how they look. It's not unfairly loaded in either direction politically, they're all ridiculed by the other side.
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That's an embarrassing thing to say, they're not celebrities far from it. They have a function and nothing should be made out to be more important than that.
This pathetic grandstanding that is popular in modern politics is exactly what's wrong, it needs to stop.
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Been watching a few protest marches after the result..my God the left are absolutely vile nasty people.. some were wishing Johnson a slow horrible death..such a nasty young woman she was..absolutely sickening.
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