[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't get the .. I will laugh in their faces when x and y are cut and I can't wait to rub their noses in it, I thought lefties were suppose to care deeply about their fellow man, I doubt anyone thought they were voting against their own interests by not voting Labour, they voted for what they thought was in their best interests obviously, whether it will pan out to be that remains to be seen

Lefties are meant to care deeply? Is that opposed to right wingers that don't give a ****?...
Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind, yes we will see cuts will be hard and deep they have the votes to get anything they want through. They'll make the bedroom tax look like a Christmas present!

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Lefties are meant to care deeply? Is that opposed to right wingers that don't give a ****?...
Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind, yes we will see cuts will be hard and deep they have the votes to get anything they want through. They'll make the bedroom tax look like a Christmas present!

Sorry, what?

Stop insulting genuine voters

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sorry, what?

Stop insulting genuine voters

I'm still confused as to why a supposed SNP voter is defending a regime that inherently opposes the SNP's M.O. For someone who tried to attack me over democracy, you'll never get the democratic vote that Scotland is crying out for, that you supposedly voted for, by defending tories.

Making out that being displeased with the Tories is somehow undemocratic is a very odd stance for an SNP voter to take since being displeased with the Tories is a large part of why the SNP are so successful.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm still confused as to why a supposed SNP voter is defending a regime that inherently opposes the SNP's M.O. For someone who tried to attack me over democracy, you'll never get the democratic vote that Scotland is crying out for, that you supposedly voted for, by defending tories.

Making out that being displeased with the Tories is somehow undemocratic is a very odd stance for an SNP voter to take since being displeased with the Tories is a large part of why the SNP are so successful.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm still confused as to why a supposed SNP voter is defending a regime that inherently opposes the SNP's M.O. For someone who tried to attack me over democracy, you'll never get the democratic vote that Scotland is crying out for, that you supposedly voted for, by defending tories.

Making out that being displeased with the Tories is somehow undemocratic is a very odd stance for an SNP voter to take since being displeased with the Tories is a large part of why the SNP are so successful.

I don't like insulting people for having different views . It's why I expose your hateful views each day and those who apologise for you.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm still confused as to why a supposed SNP voter is defending a regime that inherently opposes the SNP's M.O. For someone who tried to attack me over democracy, you'll never get the democratic vote that Scotland is crying out for, that you supposedly voted for, by defending tories.

You can like a party and its leader without agreeing with every single aim it has

You can also like more than one party, but you only get one vote.

You can also dislike a party but think droning on about how evil and nasty its voters are is a bit distasteful.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You can like a party and its leader without agreeing with every single aim it has

You can also like more than one party, but you only get one vote.

You can also dislike a party but think droning on about how evil and nasty its voters are is a bit distasteful.

Indeed Olli. I lived in London for 15 years. I can support west ham and rangers. Members need to open their minds and not be so closeted and Partizan. I hope my inclusive political approach will be an inspiration for members like Two Dezzy. That's us my hope, going forward

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed Olli. I lived in London for 15 years. I can support west ham and rangers. Members need to open their minds and not be so closeted and Partizan. I hope my inclusive political approach will be an inspiration for members like Two Dezzy. That's us my hope, going forward

So you support brexit and are against brexit?

Pull another one

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed Olli. I lived in London for 15 years. I can support west ham and rangers. Members need to open their minds and not be so closeted and Partizan. I hope my inclusive political approach will be an inspiration for members like Two Dezzy. That's us my hope, going forward

Or rather... your political leanings and your opinions change depending on the thread?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed Olli. I lived in London for 15 years. I can support west ham and rangers. Members need to open their minds and not be so closeted and Partizan. I hope my inclusive political approach will be an inspiration for members like Two Dezzy. That's us my hope, going forward

Again with the political/sports comparisons. Parties are not teams to support and pledge loyalty to. It's a dangerous cultish attitude to have towards politics that should be completely discouraged.

You can't support polar opposite stances on issues, it's simply not possible. You are being disingenuous.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Again with the political/sports comparisons. Parties are not teams to support and pledge loyalty to. It's a dangerous cultish attitude to have towards politics that should be completely discouraged.

You can't support polar opposite stances on issues, it's simply not possible. You are being disingenuous.

You don't understand sport, it's ok but others do

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I don't like insulting people for having different views . It's why I expose your hateful views each day and those who apologise for you.

Remember when you made out that a child with aspergers was troubled because you didn't like her environmental message? You do not have the moral highground so stop trying to use it.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You can like a party and its leader without agreeing with every single aim it has

You can also like more than one party, but you only get one vote.

You can also dislike a party but think droning on about how evil and nasty its voters are is a bit distasteful.

That's a cop out and it doesn't make sense, SNP and the Tories are as far removed as you can possibly get. SNP is essentially an anti-tory party for a lot of Scottish voters. It'd be like supporting the Lib Dems and the Brexit Party, they represent polar opposites and you cannot reconcile the two.

LT is on the defensive when it comes to the Tory party, I've not seen him voice much support at all for the SNP's goals but plenty of support for the Tories since the election and from before. It just doesn't add up.

He questioned me about my vote and my beliefs and when I answered and asked him the same, he ran away from the discussion and has avoided it since and now he accuses me of being 'nasty' for pointing out a discrepancy that he refuses to acknowledge.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's a cop out and it doesn't make sense, SNP and the Tories are as far removed as you can possibly get. SNP is essentially an anti-tory party for a lot of Scottish voters. It'd be like supporting the Lib Dems and the Brexit Party, they represent polar opposites and you cannot reconcile the two.

Which policies of the SNP clash most with the Tories?
Obviously apart from Brexit and Scottish independence - I doubt the SNP are a single issue party when they're Scotland's main party.

From what I've heard hear and there, they're fairly centre-right, and (apart from independence and Brexit) nothing from the SNP would be out of place in the current Tories.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Which policies of the SNP clash most with the Tories?
Obviously apart from Brexit and Scottish independence - I doubt the SNP are a single issue party when they're Scotland's main party.

From what I've heard hear and there, they're fairly centre-right, and (apart from independence and Brexit) nothing from the SNP would be out of place in the current Tories.

SNP are centre left not right.

Brexit issue is central to all other policies and these two are directly opposed.

You cant be in favour of brexit and vote to in fact rejoin the EU like snp promises.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sorry, what?

Stop insulting genuine voters

Hey I'm a lefty I'm supposed to care ...but I'm trying really hard not to.